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Let's say if one is a criminal, but has plans about getting it right with God by protestant baptism, or communion, and decides to do one last crime before getting sin-removal, is this to abuse Jesus? Is there any rules on this?
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world or the next! Mark 3: 20
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Hebrews 10:26
I'm sure that is enough information to answer your question. I'm sure you have even more questions;
My point is this - It is very dangerous to play "such a game" with the Creator of All things.
He knows the intents of your heart. "The whole head is sick - the whole heart is faint- there is none that doeth good - no not even one! Isaiah 1
Remember this; when you do something, you know is wrong, but do it anyway -
Remember these words: “My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
nor be weary when reproved by him.
6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and chastises every son whom he receives.”
7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? 8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Hebrews chapter 12: 6-7
Let's say if one is a criminal, but has plans about getting it right with God by protestant baptism, or communion, and decides to do one last crime before getting sin-removal, is this to abuse Jesus? Is there any rules on this?
Thanks
Baptism and/or communion do not "make you right" with God.
You "get right" with God by being heartily sorry for your sins and wanting to repent of them.
If a person is actively planning a crime they are not even close to being sorry for their sins and can therefore not have their sins removed.
Atkutuq: You wrote: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Hebrews 10:26"
The knowledge of truth, does it include information about sin-removal? Willfully sin after receiving the truth, isn't that a mortal sin in the catholic church? One can get absolution from that by a priest, right? Or do many priests say no to absolution if it is done wilfully after receiving the truth
What about protestantism? Is one excluded from communion if one masturbates one time after receiving the truth? Does it mean that in protestantism the communion will only work if one didn't willfully commit the sin
lovesMountains: You can still be sorry for your sin even if the crime was actively planned. It's like choosing to believe in the creed, one chooses to be sorry ?
Let's say if one is a criminal, but has plans about getting it right with God by protestant baptism, or communion, and decides to do one last crime before getting sin-removal, is this to abuse Jesus? Is there any rules on this? Thanks
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Originally Posted by Atkutuq
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Hebrews 10:26
How does this verse fit in with the unbelieving criminal?
This seems to presume an ability to fool God. There is no such thing. We are what we are and we do what we do for whatever reasons we have. God knows all that and that is what determines our standing with God, period. There are no "hidden technicalities" with God or Jesus.
Crimes leave victims. Any criminal who would commit a crime as one list fling thinking he's going to get the ultimate "Get Out Of Jail Free Card" has horrid karma.
Does Jesus remove the affect of the criminal's sin from his victim? It's pretty hard to contemplate a system where a criminal gets the "All Clear" signal from a Higher Being while people are left to cope with what the criminal knowingly did. Sounds like American jurisprudence when the bad guy has a really great lawyer and a jury who was out to lunch.
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Would this be to abuse Jesus?
