Wake Up, America! We Are Israel! We Have Lost Our Identifying Sign -- God's Seventh Day Sabbath! (punishment, Deuteronomy)

[snowdenscold]

Not worth your time, garya. This is his hobbyhorse and he will ride it all day long, every thread, shouting "No! No! Stop hating God!" as long as his keyboard still works.

No amount of reason will dissuade him from the error of his ways - hopefully a movement of the Holy Spirit at some point.

[garya123]

Originally Posted by tthttf

No!

Does God correct you when you break His Sabbaths? Does He? Think about it! God is not working with you if He does not!

God corrects every son He loves. God apparently is not correcting you for breaking His Sabbaths.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

And you actually despise God and despise His Commandments! You can't say you love God and love His Commandments for if you loved God, you would keep His Commandments just as Jesus Christ kept His Father's Commandments and we are to walk in Jesus Christ steps and do the same.

Notice the words that God used when King David broke His Spiritual Law:

2Sa 12:7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

2Sa 12:8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

2Sa 12:9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

2Sa 12:10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; becausethou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

So, you actually despise God when you trample all over His Sabbaths and you haven't the mind of God (Romans 8:7) and are not subject to the Spiritual Law of God or you would have repented when I first pointed it out to you. You just keep coming back with your Pauline scriptures to try to justify breaking God's Commandments! You are in error and will one day see all your errors, but not now it appears.

Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

That is not what God chastens people about. You have a weak conscience about the Sabbath because you adopted it for yourself from the Jews. Even people who will not certain meat feel bad if they do and then think it is God making them feel that way. It is not. You beat yourself up if you break the Sabbath, it is not God who beats on you. Now if you stole or bore false witness, He would chasten you. The Sabbath is good if a man uses it lawfully and persuaded in his own mind but the problem is you do not, you condemn everyone not like you.

Paul told Peter to stop compelling the Gentles to live after the manner of the Jews but you apparantly you can not read. I've told you several times aready what Jesus meant by keeping His commandments. But you have the mind of a Pharisee that can not receive the new truths of the New Covenant. Have nice night. Goodbye

[garya123]

Originally Posted by snowdenscold

Not worth your time, garya. This is his hobbyhorse and he will ride it all day long, every thread, shouting "No! No! Stop hating God!" as long as his keyboard still works.

No amount of reason will dissuade him from the error of his ways - hopefully a movement of the Holy Spirit at some point.

Amen to that! The only good thing out of this is I hope some have learned some very important truths.

Well in fact they have because this very moment as I writing the Spirit is being poured out on me in great measure in approval. Thank you Jesus!

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by tthttf

I believe what was written in the book I gave as a reference to be true.

Not what other authors may have written about British Israelism.

Are you aware that the Worldwide Church of God has disavowed Armstrong's errant teachings? My Christian brother, he was wrong on many things and led many astray.

[tthttf]

Originally Posted by garya123

Amen to that! The only good thing out of this is I hope some have learned some very important truths.

Well in fact they have because this very moment as I writing the Spirit is being poured out on me in great measure in approval. Thank you Jesus!

The only "truth" you have taught is what Peter warned about. You have twisted Paul's writings to your own destruction. You never answered me -- Does God correct you when you break His Holy Sabbaths?

If you truly have God's Holy Spirit you would have answered - "Yes."

Because:

RSV:
Heb 12:6 For the Lord disciplines him whom he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives."

Heb 12:7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline?

Heb 12:8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.

Also, is there divine healing in your fellowship?

Do you or your minister truly have the "faith OF Christ" to follow James 5?

Do you? Answer that!

You are teaching error and trying to deceive others into believing that you have God's Holy Spirit! If you had God's Holy Spirit you would be submissive to God's Law instead of trying to do away with it and Romans 8:7 shows that you are have a hostile attitude toward God and are unconverted:

Romans 8:7
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Your mind will remain hostile to God and His law until God actually calls you and grants you repentance. Then you will want to obey God. Until that time you despise God and His Spiritual Law because your mind is hostile to God and will not submit. You grasp and twist Paul's writings to try to convince yourself and others that God's Law has been done away and yet Paul himself in other scriptures exposes your error.

And the law that you believe Paul is condemning is actually the ceremonial works of the Law and not the Spiritual Law. For Paul knows that the Spiritual Law actually defines what sin is. He even said that keeping the Commandments was more important than anything else.

I Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Again, the law Paul is condemning is the ritualistic works of the Law that were temporary and merely were reminders of sin and pointed to Christ or were washings that pictured the coming of the Holy Spirit and were done away with when the Holy Spirit was poured out on

Also Christ Himself condemns you, but you do not heed.

Matt 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

You claim that Spiritual Law (as Paul described it in Romans) has been done away. Spirit is permanent and cannot be done away with and God does not change something that reflects His very nature and character as does the Ten Commandments.

Again,

Romans 8:7
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

All the Saints from Righteous Abel to the last convert before Christ returns will all have been Commandment keepers and will have God's Holy Spirit which means they will have the "faith OF Jesus".

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Wake up and repent before this nation is destroyed!

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.



What Paul wrote to the Galations still holds true today

You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.

I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?...Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”

True. As a result of listening and believing the erraneous teachings of H. Armstrong, the OP has misunderstood the scriptures, and his error has been pointed out to him numerous times, but he has hardened his heart. Paul warned time after time about NOT putting yourself back under the curse, but that is excatly what the OP has done.

It is pointless to have the same discussion with the same person over and over. The Bible also says this :

Titus 1:3 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.

[tthttf]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

True. The OP has misunderstood the scriptures, and his error has been pointed out to him numerous times, but he has hardened his heart. Paul warned time after time about NOT putting yourself back under the curse, but that is excatly what the OP has done.

It is pointless to have the same discussion with the same person over and over. The Bible also says this :

Titus 1:3 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.

Wrong! Twisting your Paul's writings again, I see.

You forgot about this Paul:

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Repent of what? Idolatry? Breaking the Ten Commandments? Yes!

What is sin? Sin is a transgression of God's Just and Good Spiritual Law! (see Romans 7)

I John 3:4
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

It appears John didn't agree with YOUR Paul.

The real Paul kept God's Sabbaths and Commandments. The real Paul would approve of this thread, warning people to keep the Sabbath and the Commandments.

I am not supporting the works of the Law, the ceremonial works of the law. I am not teaching physical circumcision but rather circumcision of the heart.

I am calling on all men not just modern-day Israelites to repent as Paul declared above.

You are the one who is not repenting but instead rebelling against God's Spiritual Law. You are the one who needs to repent of breaking God's Spiritual Law -- the Ten Commandments spiritually magnified and all the statutes and judgments written in the law that further magnify the Ten Commandments!

We white Anglo-Saxons in this nation have lost our identifying sign the Seventh Day Sabbath! This is a sign that we are God's people and not Gentiles. But we act as if we are heathens cut off from God and truly that is what we as a nation have become even though many profess Christ, but a false Christ that did away with His Father's Commandments.

Again, as the real Paul said, we, all men, need to repent. We need to repent of transgressing God's Spiritual Law and keep God's Seventh Day Sabbath!

Wake up!

[Bideshi]

Misguided Brother, I am tempted to dust my sandals, but I clearly see that you truly love and want to obey God. I will pray that we all come to a better understanding of God's Word. Peace.

[tthttf]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

Misguided Brother, I am tempted to dust my sandals, but I clearly see that you truly love and want to obey God. I will pray that we all come to a better understanding of God's Word. Peace.

I am not misguided at all.

God corrects me if I break His Commandments.

He guides me, and not Mr. Armstrong as you falsely accuse me of worshiping.
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[tthttf]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

True. As a result of listening and believing the erraneous teachings of H. Armstrong, the OP has misunderstood the scriptures, and his error has been pointed out to him numerous times, but he has hardened his heart. Paul warned time after time about NOT putting yourself back under the curse, but that is excatly what the OP has done.

It is pointless to have the same discussion with the same person over and over. The Bible also says this :

Titus 1:3 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.

No!

God warns and corrects me!

God apparently does not warn or correct you.

I have warned you repeatedly to keep God's Commandments and His Sabbaths.

You are the one who is not heeding the warning even though I have repeated it over and over.

Wake UP!!!!