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Old 04-24-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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Hi, I am confuse about the church denominations, there are so many and its overwhelming!

Evangelical, Presbyterian, Baptist, Episcopal, I cant remember right now the denomination list

I am basically looking for a Christian Church in the city or somewhere relatively close to Manhattan, I am willing to travel by train in order to find the right church.

I like vibrant services with a lot of singing involved.

Thanks and forgive my lack of knowledge.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:35 PM
 
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Hi, I am confuse about the church denominations, there are so many and its overwhelming!

Evangelical, Presbyterian, Baptist, Episcopal, I cant remember right now the denomination list

I am basically looking for a Christian Church in the city or somewhere relatively close to Manhattan, I am willing to travel by train in order to find the right church.

I like vibrant services with a lot of singing involved.

Thanks and forgive my lack of knowledge.

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Once you learn the differences between the different Christian denominations (or otherwise by reading further on the web yourself through neutral impartial sites like Wikipedia), then, no matter where you live, you can choose between local churches wherever you may be geographically situated that fit your self-defined needs.

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Old 04-24-2014, 11:50 PM
 
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Perhaps it may be helpful if you tell us what your own beliefs are? Or your own religious background before someone can point out a community for you that may be appropriate?

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Old 04-25-2014, 12:15 AM
 
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Wikipedia is impartial and neutral. Riight.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:19 AM
 
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By-and-large, a site such as Wikipedia is not there to advance one religious view or school-of-thought over another but to just lay out the details of what the article's subject matter is (and to whatever degree some Wikipedia contributor inserts a bias or uncalled-for insertion, it tends to be flagged, edited and re-edited by other contributor or by Wikipedia editors). That is the nature of how Wikipedia works. It is not the same as going to a site sponsored by the Southern Baptist Convention or the Episcopal Church or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and so on. You need to seek parties prone or likely to being impartial or neutral and whose aim is to simply speak of the subject-matter-at-hand merely academically, not with any agenda or bias to promote.

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Old 04-25-2014, 01:25 AM
 
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He was probably referring to the fact that telling someone to "go look it up in wikipedia" is hardly helpful especially if one is looking for regional idiosyncrasies etc. in communities.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:47 AM
 
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He was probably referring to the fact that telling someone to "go look it up in wikipedia" is hardly helpful especially if one is looking for regional idiosyncrasies etc. in communities.
First the OP needs to learn and understand the distinctions between the different Christian denominations' tenets, beliefs, practices, et al . . . and then afterwards, he/she can seek local churches that match the beliefs, leanings, practices, et al that they have chosen to subscribe to. Do all of your understand where I am coming from? In other words, it is "putting the cart before the horse". First learn the differences and similarities between the different Christian denominations themselves and THEN choose the particular local churches wherever you are geographically situated that best reflect the desired denomination and the particular appeal of whatever local churches' practices whom you are considering for attendance. Is that clearer language for all of you?

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Old 04-25-2014, 01:59 AM
 
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First the OP needs to learn and understand the distinctions between the different Christian denominations' tenets, beliefs, practices, et al . . . and then afterwards, he/she can seek local churches that match their beliefs, leanings, and likes. Do all of your understand where I am coming from? In other words, it is "putting the cart before the horse". First learn the differences and similarities between the different Christian denominations and THEN choose the particular local churches wherever you are geographically situated. Is that clearer language for all of you?
If someone already has knowledge of subject matter X, then it would be more helpful and efficient for him to draw upon his pre-established knowledge to match the OP's background and specific needs with an appropriate community rather than to boot him out to google/wikipedia using a bitter and condescending tone.

That's the basic concept of a community with shared knowledge. It saves time, and more relevantly, it helps to address specific or idiosyncratic needs.
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:32 AM
 
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If someone already has knowledge of subject matter X, then it would be more helpful and efficient for him to draw upon his pre-established knowledge to match the OP's background and specific needs with an appropriate community rather than to boot him out to google/wikipedia using a bitter and condescending tone.

That's the basic concept of a community with shared knowledge. It saves time, and more relevantly, it helps to address specific or idiosyncratic needs.
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I always chuckle at those who mudsling liberally at Christians while deflecting any vocal criticism returned upon them by using the type of fifth grade epitheology above.

In the context of your unprovoked hostile first post here, you do realize that the bible has a florid list of pejoratives for people who lack propriety? "Fools", "pigs", "hypocrites", among others. As long as one isn't resorting to scatology or dishonesty ("speaking evil of others"), not resorting to tit-for-tat squabbling ("repaying insult with insult"), and the pejorative is applicable (ie. they are not "rash" words), your theology doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.

Still, "mentally retarded" may have been a bit harsh.

My responses were to "Noggin of Rum" referring to me as "mentally retarded" out of nowhere. If he/she had other recommendations, simply say civilly "I think instead that it would be best to ask experienced Christians such as us to guide you". My stance was a defensive stance to an uncalled-for perjorative being thrown my way. Do you not comprehend that? If I start out a first posting to a thread by calling your own first posting posted prior to mine Moderator cut: deleted would you not at all get "defensive" yourself . . . regardless of if you are a person of faith or not?

My "unprovoked hostile first post"? Are you reading another thread? You obviously have reading comprehension and interpretation skills. My first posting was wholly civil and directed at the OP, not at anyone else (for there WAS no one else). What in my following first posting reponding to the OP's first question constitutes "hostility"? Moderator cut: Orphaned
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Once you learn the differences between the different Christian denominations (or otherwise by reading further on the web yourself through neutral impartial sites like Wikipedia), then, no matter where you live, you can choose between local churches wherever you may be geographically situated that fit your self-defined needs."

That is what I wrote. Nothing hostile there at all and nothing calling for someone to call me "mentally retarded". Where is there any element whatsoever of me "booting him out to google/wikipedia using a bitter and condescending tone"? There is no "lack of proprietary" present in the wording (as you put it) at all.

As to "your theology doesn't really hold up to scrutiny", I am not promoting any theology of any type. I am neutral on the matter. And I have been a Christian myself and know the theology from head-to-toe, so you don't need to educate me on the faith.

As to referring to those "who mudsling liberally at Christians", I had been a long-time Christian and was issuing a proper correction to another Christian's uncalled for un-Christ-like behavior . . . saying that such comments are not one reflective of one who claims to be guided by the example of Christ. I am no longer a Christian and feel no need to accept bad character from anyone regardless of whether I am or am not a believer.

Now let's get back to letting the OP seek and find what he/she is seeking and not hijack this thread with our back-and-forths. I shall report the "mental retardation" violation to the moderator and have ALL of our back-and-forth responses removed . . .so the OP can get civil guidance on this matter such as I started providing and not be distracted by all this other introduced garbage.

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Old 04-25-2014, 04:55 AM
 
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This is mostly nonsense. If you are unable to see how your response may come across to others as bitter, condescending and far from helpful, then I suggest you look to your own communication skills rather than criticizing that of others.
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