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Old 10-18-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Cause confession not the book only----John 8:31.

Cause atonement not the book only----John 8:31.

Cause the cross not the book only----John 8:31.

Cause the 10 commandments not the book only----John 8:31.

Cause the 2 greatest commandments not the book only---John 8:31.

Cause the outdated old law ordinances not the book only----John 8:31.

Cause the love of God not the book only----John 8:31.

Cause the least of his commandments is the book too-----Matthew 5:17-20.

Cause we live by every word of God--------Matthew 4:4.

Cause studying is just as serious as not commiting adultery----2 Timothy 2:15.

Cause segregation is just as serious as not lieing-----2 Cor. 6:14-17.

Cause Christian attire is just as serious as not judging----1 Peter 3:3.

Cause Christian marriage is just as serious as not backbiting----Romans 7:2-3.

Cause women doctrine in the church is just as serious as not stealing---1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Cause tongue and prophecy rules in the church is just as serious as not using the Lord's name
in vain-----ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

Cause the Sabbath is just as serious as not hating people----Hebrews 4.

Cause water baptism is just as serious as not killing people----John 3:5.

Cause contentment is just as serious as paying your tithes----1 Timothy 6.

Cause selecting a pastor is just as serious as praying to God---Romans 13:1.

Cause unity is just as serious as making peace with people----2 Cor. 6:14-17.

Cause rebuke is just as serious as going on a fast-----James 5:20.

Cause Godly counsel is just as serious as staying healthy----Psalms 1.

Cause rejection is just as serious as being humble----Galations 1:8-9.

Cause mockery is just as serious as having a good reputation---Matthew 10:22.

Cause modest toleration is just as serious as sharing the gospel---Titus 3:10.

Cause selective prospecting is just as serious as giving to the poor----Matthew 7:6.

Cause boldness is just as serious as a joyful spirit----2 Thess. 3:10.

Cause holy parties is just as serious as not being in a drug dealer house---1 Peter 4:1-4.

Cause restricted editing is just as serious as outlawing prostitution---Revelation 22:18-19.

Cause being a know it all is just as serious as doing arson----John 5:39.

Cause independence of God is just as serious as kidnapping-----Jeremiah 10:23.

Cause the wisdom of man is just as serious as burglary-----Isaiah 64:6.

Cause doctrine of man is just as serious as committing suicide----Ephesians 4:5.

Cause philosophy is just as serious as racism----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Cause deceit is just as serious as swearing-----John 8:24.

Cause lukewarmness is just as serious as idolatry----Matthew 4:4.

Cause doubt is just as serious as cussing----2 Timothy 3:16.

Cause ignorance is just as serious as homosexuality----1 Cor. 8:2.

Cause repentance is just as serious as cross boasting----Romans 6:1.

Cause bible revelation is just as serious as counterfeit money is----1 John 2:27.

Cause God's voice is just as serious as knowing there are children of the devil---Romans 10:17.

Self honesty is just as serious as honoring your parents----Romans 12:3.

Again the noble goal is in attracting 100% bible believers together----Psalms 133:1.

Never one to come on flattery and informative only.

90% bible believers can exit from here and never come back.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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We should be "perfection-minded" because Jesus Christ commanded us to "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect."
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:58 PM
 
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If We're Not Good Enough To Make It Why Be Perfection Minded ??

In the OT, God revealed to the Israelites that they were to be Holy just as He was holy.
In the NT, Jesus revealed it also in the present tense as "be" perfect.

In either case, it wasn't a suggestion, or a goal to achieve or something that is based on percentages that many like to turn it into.

So the real question is how does one "be" [present tenst] perfect.... not become perfect \ holy.



There are only two answers:
  1. the dangling carrot method
    • God does his part \ you work your part and you might become it
  2. God gives this perfection freely
    • by faith not by works
Jesus revealed that #2 is the only solution:
Hebrews 10:14
because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Default What The Issue Really Is

Quote:
Originally Posted by twin.spin View Post
If We're Not Good Enough To Make It Why Be Perfection Minded ??

In the OT, God revealed to the Israelites that they were to be Holy just as He was holy.
In the NT, Jesus revealed it also in the present tense as "be" perfect.

In either case, it wasn't a suggestion, or a goal to achieve or something that is based on percentages that many like to turn it into.

So the real question is how does one "be" [present tenst] perfect.... not become perfect \ holy.



There are only two answers:
  1. the dangling carrot method
    • God does his part \ you work your part and you might become it
  2. God gives this perfection freely
    • by faith not by works
Jesus revealed that #2 is the only solution:
Hebrews 10:14
because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
The cross only works if you live out Romans 6:1.

The cross only works if you live out 1 John 1:9.

Faith only works if you live out Romans 10:17.

Faith only works if you live out Romans 12:3.

Being born again only works if you live out John 3:5.

Being born again only works if you live out Romans 8:14.

Repentance only works if you live out John 8:31.

Repentance only works if you live out 2 Timothy 3:16.

Revelation of God only works if you live out 2 Timothy 2:15.

Revelation of God only works if you live out 1 John 2:27.

Acting like a Christian only works if you live out Matthew 4:4.

Acting like a Christian only works if you live out Matthew 5:17-20.

Confession only works if you live out John 8:24.

Confession only works if you live out Matthew 7:21-23 for the good.

Ambition only works if you live out 1 Timothy 6.

Ambition only works if you live out Hebrews 4.

Testimonies only work if you live out Psalms 107:2.

Testimonies only work if you live out John 8:31.

Love only works if you live out 1 John 2:15.

Love only works if you live out Matthew 10:37.

Sharing the gospel only works if you live out Matthew 7:6.

Sharing the gospel only works if you live out Titus 3:10.

Church only works if you live out 2 Cor. 6:14-17.

Church only works if you live out Psalms 133:1.

A relationship with God only works if you live out John 17:21.

A relationship with God only works if you live out Ephesians 4:5.

Wisdom only works if you believe 2 Peter 1:20-21.

Wisdom only works if you believe Isaiah 64:6.

Hearing God only works if you live out Romans 10:17.

Hearing God only works if John 10:27 applies to you.

A loving Father only works if John 8:44 doesn't apply to you.

A Loving Father only works if you live out Romans 8:14.

Submission only works if you don't live out Matthew 15:14.

Submission only works if you live out Galations 1:8-9.

Anti-works doctrine only works if you live out Ephesians 2:9-10.

Anti-works doctrine only works if you teach John 1:17 right.

The 10 commandments only works if you live out Matthew 5:17-20.

The 2 greatest commandments only works if you live out Matthew 4:4.

Nobody can live out Matthew 5:17-20 without living out 1 Peter 3:3.

Nobody can live out Matthew 4:4 without living out John 3:5.

Nobody can live out Matthew 5:17-20 without living out Romans 7:2-3.

Nobody can live out Matthew 4:4 without living out 1 Peter 4:1-4.

Nobody can live out John 8:31 without living out 2 Timothy 2:15.

Nobody can live out John 5:39 without living out 1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Nobody can live out John 3:16 without living out 1 Timothy 6.

Nobody can live out Romans 10:9 without living out 2 Cor. 6:14-17.

Nobody can live out Matthew 5:6 without living out John 17:9.

Nobody can live out Ephesians 2:8 without living out 2 Timothy 3:16.

Nobody can live out 2 Timothy 2:15 if they don't believe 1 John 2:27.

Nobody can call themselves saved without living out Romans 6:1.

Nobody can talk about their deliverance if their not living out Matthew 7:21-23 for the good enough.

Nobody can discredit being perfection minded and be saved too----Phillipians 3:12-14.

Nobody can expect atonement from God if their trying to take a short cut to heaven---John 8:31.

Nobody can be a 90% bible believer and expect a place in heaven for them---Matthew 5:17-20.

Nobody can be a wisdom of man person and have the spirit of God-----Jeremiah 10:23.

Nobody can make it into heaven without any of the wisdom of God----1 Cor. 1:25.

Nobody can break a few habits and have Christianity all figured out---John 5:39.

Nobody can be an intellectual for God unlawfully----Revelations 22:18-19 and Matthew 5:18.

Nobody can have Easter and Christmas commemorations and be a Christian today----John 4:24.

Nobody can be a total peaceful person without tribulation; especially if your a 100% bible
believer today----Matthew 10:22 and Luke 6:26.

Nobody can have their mother and father's religion if it doesn't line up with the book
today-----Matthew 10:37 and 2 Cor. 6:14-17.

Nobody can be a closet Christian and go to heaven----Matthew 5:14-16.

Nobody can be passive with 10% of the bible and go to heaven----2 Timothy 3:16.

Nobody can assume their having church with believers----2 Timothy 3:16 and 1 Thess. 5:12.

Nobody can be a coward and say heaven is for 90% bible believers too---John 8:31.

Nobody can be a lier and say heaven is for 90% bible believers too---John 8:44 and Romans 3:1-4.

Nobody can a Christian and despise man rebuking man with the bible----James 5:20.

Nobody can be a neutral Christian and not rebuke man with the bible if the shoe fits----James 5:20.

Nobody can be a politician and say heaven is for 90% bible believers too---1 John 2:15 and John 8:31.


Again the noble goal is to attract 100% bible believers together only---John 17:21 and Amos 3:3
and Psalms 133:1 and 2 Cor. 6 and Matthew 7:6. Okay my friend you get the point !!!

Flattery and being informative is never a goal to inspire into.

90% bible believers can exit from here and never come back---Matthew 7:6 and 2 Cor. 6.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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Because the I AM Presence is perfect and knows nothing of this world, and we literally are the Presence:
I AM Presence Portrait
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