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View Poll Results: Do you consider Jehovah's Witnesses to be part of Christianity?
Yes 24 42.11%
No 33 57.89%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-31-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Landmark Baptists are those that think their denomination was founded by John the Baptist. They don't believe they were ever part of the catholic church.

I personally don't have an issue with the idea that for a time the only representation of Christianity was the catholic church. I think within that there were genuine Christians. It did reach the point where it needed to be reformed....and instead of doing so they kicked out the reformers.
I do because that is highly Eurocentric point of view. The Roman Catholic church was the only representation for much of Europe for a time, but not others. Christianity did exist elsewhere and certain practices differed due to the absence of Roman Catholic dominance.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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I do because that is highly Eurocentric point of view. The Roman Catholic church was the only representation for much of Europe for a time, but not others. Christianity did exist elsewhere and certain practices differed due to the absence of Roman Catholic dominance.
Keep in mind, I'm not saying that it was the RCC or nothing until Luther, Calvin and the others came along. There was for a period of a few hundred years when I think it was the "catholic church". It later evolved into the "Roman" catholic church. Perhaps there were other churches not submissive to their hierarchy...I don't know.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Actually what you should have been sensing is that I actually have other things in my life away from the computer.

There is no "simple answer"...and definitely no "real resistance" here. I prefer to use scriptural references so a one word answer will not suffice. ...................................CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT ............... .................................................. .................................................. ..............because God said you must not eat the fruit, and Eve said you must not touch the fruit. JWs 100% believe that Jesus was resurrected...plain and simple. I said before, it has never been troubling to me about the condition or whereabouts of Jesus' physical body... He was resurrected and that's what matters.
So let me ask again. Do you and the JW"s teach that Jesus body was not resurrected or His body was resurrected? Was it the same physical body or a "spirit body? Simple question and can be answered very directly.

Sense we both know the answer what's the problem? You do not believe Jesus' body was resurrected do you?
You can admit the truth here. No one will hurt you!
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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I do because that is highly Eurocentric point of view. The Roman Catholic church was the only representation for much of Europe for a time, but not others. Christianity did exist elsewhere and certain practices differed due to the absence of Roman Catholic dominance.
Right you are and there is evidence that Christians existed before and outside the RCC church after it was formed. They never bowed the knee to Rome and were killed and hunted down for it. Even the RCC admits they were out there.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Keep in mind, I'm not saying that it was the RCC or nothing until Luther, Calvin and the others came along. There was for a period of a few hundred years when I think it was the "catholic church". It later evolved into the "Roman" catholic church. Perhaps there were other churches not submissive to their hierarchy...I don't know.
Understood but regardless, that is still limited to Europe and perhaps parts of Western Asia, not other areas where Christianity existed (and still exist). The Catholic and Roman Catholic churches were never fully able to subjugate Christianity to its interpretations in other regions.

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Old 12-31-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Regardless though, that is still limited to Europe and perhaps parts of Western Asia, not other areas where Christianity existed (and still exist). The Catholic and Roman Catholic churches were never fully able to subjugate Christianity in other regions.
Do you have any documentation of such churches existing? I'd be thrilled to find some.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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If they believe in Jesus as their savior, then yes.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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So let me ask again. Do you and the JW"s teach that Jesus body was not resurrected or His body was resurrected? Was it the same physical body or a "spirit body? Simple question and can be answered very directly.

Sense we both know the answer what's the problem? You do not believe Jesus' body was resurrected do you?
You can admit the truth here. No one will hurt you!
It was answered in my last post.
Given these scriptures, Jehovah's Witnesses conclude that Jesus was resurrected with a spirit body and used his ability to take on a body as needed, when needed.

Hurt me? Really? Whatever that means

Also, since "we both know the answer", why are you asking a question to which you claim to already have the answer?
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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It was answered in my last post.
Given these scriptures, Jehovah's Witnesses conclude that Jesus was resurrected with a spirit body and used his ability to take on a body as needed, when needed.

Hurt me? Really? Whatever that means
OK. You admit JW's do not believe Jesus' body was resurrected.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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OK. You admit JW's do not believe Jesus' body was resurrected.
Lol...this is silly. Have a great evening.
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