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Old 01-06-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Demons speak satanical concepts contrary to what God spoke:
Genesis 3:4
You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman.
Demons deliberately quote scripture just wrong enough to imply what God does not:
Matthew 4:6 is Satan is misquoting Psalm 91:11-12
For it is written: “ ‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’ ”
Demons know that their fate is
Luke 4:34
“Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us?
Demons look for human victims
1 Peter 5:8
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
Demons speak through humans:
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “Legion,” he replied, because many demons had gone into him.
People speak for Satan
Mark 8:33
But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter.Get behind me, Satan!” he said. “You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”
Does that happen today? .... Yes.

UR deliberately quote scripture just wrong enough to imply what God does not:
the deliberate wrongful implication of "all"
UR theology speaks satanical concepts contrary to what God spoke:
God said: Mark 3:29
But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”
UR claims otherwise ... How? By the wanton misquoting other scriptures (See Matthew 4:6)
Satan uses UR theology to offer a gospel salvation to whom God does not.
God said:1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:

UR claims otherwise ... How? By the wanton misquoting other scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:4, Hebrew 2 ect.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:32 PM
 
Location: NC
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Demons speak satanical concepts contrary to what God spoke:
Genesis 3:4
You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman.
Demons deliberately quote scripture just wrong enough to imply what God does not:
Matthew 4:6 is Satan is misquoting Psalm 91:11-12
For it is written: “ ‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’ ”
Demons know that their fate is
Luke 4:34
“Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us?
Demons look for human victims
1 Peter 5:8
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
Demons speak through humans:
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “Legion,” he replied, because many demons had gone into him.
People speak for Satan
Mark 8:33
But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter.Get behind me,

Satan!” he said. “You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

Thank you for sharing Twin.spin This is so true.

Do you not believe that all things will be made subject to God?

And do you not believe that Jesus has been made heir of all?

I am sure that satan or demons do not like to hear this. Just saying.

Take care and God bless.


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Old 01-06-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: In the ♥ of the DIXIE!
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Originally Posted by twin.spin View Post
Does that happen today? .... Yes.

UR deliberately quote scripture just wrong enough to imply what God does not:
the deliberate wrongful implication of "all"
UR theology speaks satanical concepts contrary to what God spoke:
God said: Mark 3:29
But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”
UR claims otherwise ... How? By the wanton misquoting other scriptures (See Matthew 4:6)
Satan uses UR theology to offer a gospel salvation to whom God does not.
God said:1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:

UR claims otherwise ... How? By the wanton misquoting other scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:4, Hebrew 2 ect.
Amen!
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:36 PM
 
Location: NC
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God said: Mark 3:29
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But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”

eternal=aion=of or relating to an age, meaning "not eternal"


Quote:
God said:1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Yes.

Quote:
UR claims otherwise ... How? By the wanton misquoting other scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:4, Hebrew 2 ect.

How so? Maybe the problem is that many are not ready to receive these scriptures which speak of God's plan for all. But so be it


Take care and God bless.

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Old 01-06-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: In the ♥ of the DIXIE!
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With the false assumption that "aionion" should be translated into something temporal and that its root only means "age," the universalist will then falsely claim that any reference to "eternal fire," "eternal torment," or "eternal punishment" is not really eternal. Instead of "eternal torment," it is "aionion torment." Instead of "eternal punishment," it becomes "aionion punishment." In this way, to the universalist, there is no eternal hell, no eternal punishment, and no eternal damnation. And of course the false doctrine that everyone will be saved.

Such a half-truth approach by the Universalists can be very confusing to someone who doesn't understand Greek, and that is the real reason that Universalism has followers. While it is true the root "aion" means age. But just because a root means age does not mean that every word derived from that root means a limited duration of time. As an example, consider this verse speaking about God:

who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen, (1 Tim. 6:16)

The context is obviously dealing with God's eternal nature. The word in Greek for "immortality" is "athanatos." The Greek word for death is "thanatos." The "a" in front of the word is the negator -- without, non, etc. It means that God is deathless; hence, immortal. This is an eternal quality of God. Likewise, the verse states that God has eternal dominion. The word for "eternal" is "aionios" which is derived from the Greek root "aion" which means age. But, God is not immortal for only an "age," nor is His dominion temporal. The word "eternal" is absolutely the best way to translate the Greek "aionion" because God is immortal and eternal. Therefore, it would be wrong to translate the verse by stating that God has "aionion" dominion. Rather, He has eternal dominion.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: NC
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1 Timohthy 6:16

I charge thee, before God, who is making all things alive, and of Christ Jesus, who did testify before Pontius Pilate the right profession,
14 that thou keep the command unspotted, unblameable, till the manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 which in His own times He shall shew -- the blessed and only potentate, the King of the kings and Lord of the lords,
16 who only is having immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable, whom no one of men did see, nor is able to see, to whom [is] honour and might age-during! Amen. (YLT)

13 I am charging you in the sight of God, Who is vivifying all, and of Jesus Christ, Who testifies in the ideal avowal before Pontius Pilate,
14 that you keep this precept unspotted, irreprehensible, unto the advent of our Lord, Christ Jesus,
15 which, to its own eras, the happy and only Potentate will be showing: He is King of kings and Lord of lords,
16 Who alone has immortality, making His home in light inaccessible, Whom not one of mankind perceived nor can be perceiving, to Whom be honor and might eonian! Amen (Concordant Literal)


Jesus has been given all authority in heaven and on earth and will rule over all, subjecting all to Himself through the ages. One day the ages will end and one day He will be subject to the Father and deliver the kingdom to the Father so that God may be all in all (1 Corinthians 15)

God bless.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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Romans 8
16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.
18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the anxious longing of the creation/creature waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation/creature was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, [i]in hope* 21 that the creation/creature itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.

*hope=elpis=expectation

God bless.
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