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Old 01-07-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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This is the group of holocaust deniers the pope was welcoming back with open arms while he was busy kicking out priests, going after the sisters and trying to crack down on them along with trying to silencing theologians for their writings.

Bernard Fellay, Head Of Traditionalist Catholic Sect, Says Jews Are 'Enemies Of The Church'
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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Is this the one that Mel Gibson was a part of?
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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HuffPo always goes for the headline,
meanwhile, here is a much better article:

Jews, Masons, and Modernists called the

NEW HAMBURG, Canada, Jan 4, 2013–Bishop Bernard Fellay, the head of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X, mentioned Jews as “enemies of the Church” in a recent address reviewing the situation of the group as it considered full communion with Rome this past year.

Bishop Bernard Fellay. Credit: Catholic News Agency
“Who, during that time, was the most opposed that the Church would recognize the Society? The enemies of the Church. The Jews, the Masons, the Modernists,” Bishop Fellay, superior general of the society, said during a talk Dec. 28 at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Chapel in New Hamburg, Ontario.

The comment was made in passing during the wide-ranging address, which lasted one hour and 40 minutes.
Bishop Fellay: Jews, Masons, and Modernists are ‘enemies of the Church’ | CBCP News
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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Is this the one that Mel Gibson was a part of?
I want to say yes but not 100% sure.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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This is the group of holocaust deniers the pope was welcoming back with open arms while he was busy kicking out priests, going after the sisters and trying to crack down on them along with trying to silencing theologians for their writings.
Not true at all. The Society of St. Pius X is a wacko fringe group, and LeFebvre is considered an extremist whose theology is at odds with the Church. Check out what the Pope actually wrote rather than relying on fourth-hand opinions:

Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church concerning the remission of the excommunication of the four Bishops consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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Not true at all. The Society of St. Pius X is a wacko fringe group, and LeFebvre is considered an extremist whose theology is at odds with the Church. Check out what the Pope actually wrote rather than relying on fourth-hand opinions:

Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church concerning the remission of the excommunication of the four Bishops consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre
Yes it is true before all the uproar the pope had open arms for this group, it wasn't till all the bad press did things change.

Note in my op I said was welcoming

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Old 01-08-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Since becoming pope, Benedict has met Fellay, promoted the old Latin Mass the SSPX champions and lifted excommunications imposed on Lefebvre and the four bishops when they defied Pope John Paul and went ahead with the unauthorized ordinations.

Benedict's 2007 decision to allow wider use of the old Latin Mass met with a mixed reaction among Catholics. A minority welcomed it but many thought that reviving the 16th century ritual was turning back the clock to before the 1960s Council.

Two years later, he set off a firestorm of criticism from Catholics, Jews and German politicians when his decision to lift the bishops' excommunications brought Holocaust-denying Bishop Richard Williamson back into the Church.

Lifting the excommunications meant the four bishops were once again full members of the 1.2-billion member Church, but they and the SSPX - which claims to have 500 priests and a million followers - had no official position or role within it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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Note in my op I said was welcoming


"It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." –- Bill Clinton
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:12 AM
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Anyone that denies the Holocaust is antisemitic and has surely replaced Israel. To him applies Rom 11:22. Jesus said, Salvation comes from the Jews. When Israel welcomes the Lord, He comes back, if they come to faith, it is the Resurrection from the dead, the Gentile believers are not longer Gentiles, but fellow-citizens of the commonwealth of Israel (Eph 2) in the Spirit. They are called to bring the Jews to jalousie. The Church and especially the Catholic Church has not used the cross (mercy), but the sword. They have made the Jewish Messiah to a Gentile God, so no wonder religious Jews are enemies of the Church. This Bishop should pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for the Salvation of natural Israel and repent of the sins of his church.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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This is the group of holocaust deniers the pope was welcoming back with open arms while he was busy kicking out priests, going after the sisters and trying to crack down on them along with trying to silencing theologians for their writings.

Bernard Fellay, Head Of Traditionalist Catholic Sect, Says Jews Are 'Enemies Of The Church'
It would seem the current "pope" would welcome them since he was a Hitler Youth himself. Remember that Rome was allied with Hitler until they were defeated by by the Baptist of America and Europe.
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