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Old 01-19-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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Water baptism is not a debate it's the law of God on salvation----John 3:5.

Christian attire is not a debate it's the law of God too----1 Peter 3:3 and Matthew 5:17-20.

New law for today is not a debate cause of grace today----Matthew 5 and Romans 6:1.

Legalless grace is not salvation----Romans 6:1 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

Legalless old law today is salvation----John 8:32 and John 1:17 and Ephesians 2:8.

Knowing the difference between old law and new law today is wisdom ----2 Timothy 2:15.

Law is not removed just new law is instituted----Matthew 5:17 and Matthew 5.

Law is not removed unless you talking about old law today---Matthew 5:17 and John 1:17 and
Ephesians 2:8.

Old law is exactly the 613 old law ordinances by Moses----Ephesians 2:8.

New law is exactly everything else-----John 8:32 and John 5:39.

No works is talking about the old law today only----Ephesians 2:8 and John 8:32.

Works today is talking about everything else----1 Timothy 6 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

Old grace never been legalless---John 8:32.

New grace never been legalless----John 8:32 and 1 Timothy 6 and John 3:5 and Matthew 5.

What's legalless is old law today only----John 8:32 and John 5:39.

A never legalless period of grace means a never legalless period of grace---Matthew 5:17.

Period of grace in the old law and period of grace in the new law---John 8:32.

Period of law in the old grace and period of law in the new grace---John 8:32.

Law not out of business and grace not out of business---John 8:32 and Matthew 5:17.

Just a period of time out of business only----John 1:17 and John 8:32.

Again the noble goal is the same; it's one to attract 100% bible believers together
only---Psalms 133:1.

This the body of Christ only----John 8:31 and John 17:21.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:50 AM
 
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Water baptism is not a debate it's the law of God on salvation----John 3:5.

Christian attire is not a debate it's the law of God too----1 Peter 3:3 and Matthew 5:17-20.

New law for today is not a debate cause of grace today----Matthew 5 and Romans 6:1.

Legalless grace is not salvation----Romans 6:1 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

Legalless old law today is salvation----John 8:32 and John 1:17 and Ephesians 2:8.

Knowing the difference between old law and new law today is wisdom ----2 Timothy 2:15.

Law is not removed just new law is instituted----Matthew 5:17 and Matthew 5.

Law is not removed unless you talking about old law today---Matthew 5:17 and John 1:17 and
Ephesians 2:8.

Old law is exactly the 613 old law ordinances by Moses----Ephesians 2:8.

New law is exactly everything else-----John 8:32 and John 5:39.

No works is talking about the old law today only----Ephesians 2:8 and John 8:32.

Works today is talking about everything else----1 Timothy 6 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

Old grace never been legalless---John 8:32.

New grace never been legalless----John 8:32 and 1 Timothy 6 and John 3:5 and Matthew 5.

What's legalless is old law today only----John 8:32 and John 5:39.

A never legalless period of grace means a never legalless period of grace---Matthew 5:17.

Period of grace in the old law and period of grace in the new law---John 8:32.

Period of law in the old grace and period of law in the new grace---John 8:32.

Law not out of business and grace not out of business---John 8:32 and Matthew 5:17.

Just a period of time out of business only----John 1:17 and John 8:32.

Again the noble goal is the same; it's one to attract 100% bible believers together
only---Psalms 133:1.

This the body of Christ only----John 8:31 and John 17:21.
Trust those who are seeking for Truth, doubt those who claim that they have found it...
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:13 AM
 
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A Christian is simply one who follows the words and actions of Christ as written in the gospels... and in his heart as written by the Holy Spirit

Man cannot judge the spiritual heart of another, nor read what has been written there. Nor can he condemn another believer for not being just like him..Pride that one has all the truths of interpretation is a terrible burdensome load to carry around.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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A Christian is simply one who follows the words and actions of Christ as written in the gospels... and in his heart as written by the Holy Spirit

Man cannot judge the spiritual heart of another, nor read what has been written there. Nor can he condemn another believer for not being just like him..Pride that one has all the truths of interpretation is a terrible burdensome load to carry around.
From the gospels: But you can judge who they are.
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

Watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and that of Herod.”

Watch out for the teachers of the law.

Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
From the gospels: you can judge by what they say....
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart.
For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.
You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
From the gospels: but you can judge by their actions....
For from within, out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder,
adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.




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Old 01-21-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Trust those who are seeking for Truth, doubt those who claim that they have found it...
John 1:41
The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, “We have found the Messiah” (that is, the Christ).

John 4:25

The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
Why some Jews did and others do not:
Matthew 13:19
When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart.

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Old 01-21-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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A Christian is simply one who follows the words and actions of Christ as written in the gospels... and in his heart as written by the Holy Spirit

Man cannot judge the spiritual heart of another, nor read what has been written there. Nor can he condemn another believer for not being just like him..Pride that one has all the truths of interpretation is a terrible burdensome load to carry around.
I agree.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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I think it's kind of funny that a guy who think he has it all figured out has started a thread chastising others for the same quality.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:20 PM
 
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A Christian is simply one who follows the words and actions of Christ as written in the gospels... and in his heart as written by the Holy Spirit

Man cannot judge the spiritual heart of another, nor read what has been written there. Nor can he condemn another believer for not being just like him..Pride that one has all the truths of interpretation is a terrible burdensome load to carry around.
Very well said.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:19 AM
 
Location: New England
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I think it's kind of funny that a guy who think he has it all figured out has started a thread chastising others for the same quality.
True.
Unfortunately we love to sanctify others rather than ourselves, judge others rather than ourselves, study others to see if they are approved instead of ourselves, and put the house of others in order rather than our own.
Playing who we believe God IS.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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True.
Unfortunately we love to sanctify others rather than ourselves, judge others rather than ourselves, study others to see if they are approved instead of ourselves, and put the house of others in order rather than our own.
Playing who we believe God IS.

I agree!!!!
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