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Old 05-23-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Jehovah is Jesus Christ himself - the Son of the invisible God - who was sent into this world and made flesh to save us from our sins. He is called Lord God (YHVH) in the Old Testament and Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

Jehovah or Jesus, is the Only Begotten Son of the Invisible God Father..... of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor his name have been revealed to anyone at this time. Jehovah is the only God physically formed for us to to see and witness.

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Old 05-23-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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Jehovah is Jesus Christ himself - the Son of the invisible God - who was sent into this world and made flesh to save us from our sins. He is called Lord God (YHVH) in the Old Testament and Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

Jehovah or Jesus, is the Only Begotten Son of the Invisible God Father..... of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor his name have been revealed to anyone at this time. Jehovah is the only God physically formed for us to to see and witness.

So are you saying there is no Father, Son and Spirit? Are you denying the Trinity?
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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Default Jesus Christ is Jehovah himself of old, the Son of God.....

I guess you can say that I am denying the popular version of "Trinity" concept .... which I believe NOT Biblical and only based on wild imagination of men.... Of course, there's the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the union of God as One (echad).....

1 John 5:7 For there are three (numeric) that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three (numeric) are one (in unity).

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Old 05-23-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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Jehovah is Jesus Christ himself - the Son of the invisible God - who was sent into this world and made flesh to save us from our sins. He is called Lord God (YHVH) in the Old Testament and Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament.
I agree with this statement...

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Jehovah or Jesus, is the Only Begotten Son of the Invisible God Father..... of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor his name have been revealed to anyone at this time. Jehovah is the only God physically formed for us to to see and witness.
...and disagree (to some extent) with this one.
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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I guess you can say that I am denying the popular version of "Trinity" concept .... which I believe NOT Biblical and only based on wild imagination of men.... Of course, there's the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the union of God as One (echad).....

1 John 5:7 For there are three (numeric) that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three (numeric) are one (in unity).

Note: Incertions are mine for presentation.
One in three and three in one ... What am I missing here? ... Isn't that the "popular version of the Trinity concept" that you claim to be denying??
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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One in three and three in one ... What am I missing here? ... Isn't that the "popular version of the Trinity concept" that you claim to be denying??
You know, it is entirely possible to believe in God the Eternal Father, and in His Son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost without believing that God is the being first described at Nicea in 325 A.D. I deny the Nicene Creed, but I definitely don't deny the Godhead of the scriptures. I also agree with 2Pillars that "these three (numeric) are one (in unity)."
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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So are you saying there is no Father, Son and Spirit?
Where did 2Pillars say there is no Father, Son and Spirit?
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:56 PM
 
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Where did 2Pillars say there is no Father, Son and Spirit?
My post was a question. I was trying to understand. He/she followed it up with a good clarification for me.


Obviously, as you might expect, I would say he has a flawed understanding of the nature of God.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:42 AM
 
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Jehovah is Jesus Christ himself - the Son of the invisible God - who was sent into this world and made flesh to save us from our sins. He is called Lord God (YHVH) in the Old Testament and Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

Jehovah or Jesus, is the Only Begotten Son of the Invisible God Father..... of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor his name have been revealed to anyone at this time. Jehovah is the only God physically formed for us to to see and witness.

So who sent Him?...
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:18 AM
 
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Isaiah 6:2-3 Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understandthat I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be afterme.

To be witnessed is to be seen physically or experienced. The Scripture clearly documenting us that... Jehovah is the only God physically formed for us to see andwitness..... before him there was none.... neither there shall be after him. Therefore, Jehovah has physical form.

Exodus 6:2-3 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD (Jehovah): v3 And I appeared (physical form) unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

God, the Father, is an invisible Spirit.... without any shape or form.... However, Scripture tells us that.... if you have seen the Son, you have seen the Father because....He is the express image invisble God....the only begotten of his Father.... and in him (the Son) is the fulless of Godhead, bodily (physically).

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