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Old 05-24-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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...A Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

You can only break free of their claim of a Trinity doctrine if you refuse this 3 are 1 doctrine.

I'm not saying there is not God, Father, and Son.

I'm just saying these 3 are not 1.
That what makes you not a Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church will always have their claim-to-fame of you, til you do.

We are not all catholics now...
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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...A Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

You can only break free of their claim of a Trinity doctrine if you refuse this 3 are 1 doctrine.

I'm not saying there is not God, Father, and Son.

I'm just saying these 3 are not 1.
The alternative then, is to believe in polytheism. Because the Bible clearly says all 3 are God, and it clearly gives all 3 attributes of a person.
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That what makes you not a Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church will always have their claim-to-fame of you, til you do.

We are not all catholics now...
I am "catholic", with a lower-case "c". It simply means "universal". I'm a member of the Christian Church. That's not a denomination, but rather the church Christ founded. Ironically, the title "Roman Catholic" is an oxymoron...it's like saying "Roman Universal". The 2 words contradict.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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The trinity is there because The creator Father God in His essence could not go to the earth and be the Saviour , because He is prefect in His essence that man would fry in His presence , Because man is not a perfect being living on the dark earth were sin abounds ...... So Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of God could go to the earth but power is equal to the devil ..............So Father God and the Saviour Jesus who have the power , where the devil would be removed with ease .....So Holy Spirit is the deliver of the power of Christ through the power of Father God through the blood of Jesus , as Jesus Blood is the judgment where all blessing come...... Still Father Son Jesus and Holy Spirit , are of One mind , where nothing Father Son Jesus ,and Holy Spirit do would cross the other in any way , as all three see and think the same ..... See to know Holy Spirit of Christ is the know Lord Jesus Christ is to Know Father God of Christ the Creator ..... See they are not three different beings , as this would bring strife and conflict and differences which can never be perfect..... Where God is perfect...
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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...A Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

You can only break free of their claim of a Trinity doctrine if you refuse this 3 are 1 doctrine.
Actually, it is not Trinity Doctrine or even Unity that is the problem. It is the idea that one or the other is so essential to Christian perceptions that a person can't be a Christian unless he holds the "right" view. This has been so stringently enforced that people have been killed for it and THAT is of Satan.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I'm a member of the Christian Church. That's not a denomination, but rather the church Christ founded.
I'm a member of the church Christ founded, too, Vizio, but I don't believe in the Trinity, just the Godhead.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:12 AM
 
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...A Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

You can only break free of their claim of a Trinity doctrine if you refuse this 3 are 1 doctrine.

I'm not saying there is not God, Father, and Son.

I'm just saying these 3 are not 1.
That what makes you not a Protestant of The Re-Form-Mation of The Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church will always have their claim-to-fame of you, til you do.

We are not all catholics now...
I wonder if all the others in the Old Testament that were called Messiah were meant to bring in God's Kingdom but failed in some way...Abraham, Moses, David...And Yeshua was the only one that walked 100% in the ways of the Father and therefore the Father was pleased to bestow His Word through His Spirit onto Yeshua...Just a thought...I think spirit is an abstract thought rather than a specific thing when spoken of...Like John being in the spirit of Elijah doesn't make him Elijah...
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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The alternative then, is to believe in polytheism. Because the Bible clearly says all 3 are God, and it clearly gives all 3 attributes of a person.


I am "catholic", with a lower-case "c". It simply means "universal". I'm a member of the Christian Church. That's not a denomination, but rather the church Christ founded. Ironically, the title "Roman Catholic" is an oxymoron...it's like saying "Roman Universal". The 2 words contradict.
Yes, I know you are the mother church...

God did not come in flesh.

God sent His Word to become Flesh.

The catholic trinity doctrine says God Became Flesh.
Which is not scriptural. But traditional to their trinity doctrine.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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I'm a member of the church Christ founded, too, Vizio, but I don't believe in the Trinity, just the Godhead.
We've had this discussion. Your version of Christ is much different than the one of the Bible. They are not the same person.

Should I just start calling you "Mike"? Or do names and identities actually matter?
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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We've had this discussion. Your version of Christ is much different than the one of the Bible. They are not the same person.
My version of Christ is fully Biblical. I believe every last word that the Bible has to say about Christ. I just don't believe what a council of uninspired men convened at the request of a pagan emperor had to say about Christ. Maybe it's your version of Christ that's different than the one of the Bible.

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Should I just start calling you "Mike"? Or do names and identities actually matter?
Sure, Vizio. Feel free to call me Mike if it makes you happy. And I'll start calling you "Susan." Of course what you choose to call me and what I choose to call you doesn't change who either of us really is.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:27 AM
 
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Who are the "Gods" God is God "OF" ?

Scripture says God Is "The God Of Gods".

Jesus being The Word Of God In The Flesh said
He called The 'children' of Israel gods in their law.

Why did they not believe they were 'gods' ?

Being 'the children of God' ?
Why wouldn't we be the gods, God is God Of ?

After all it can't be such a bad thing when Jesus Himself proclaimed them gods.
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