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Old 01-27-2015, 11:57 PM
 
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No ;your mixing up black churches like REV Wright who preach that whitey is the devil. Those were never in closet; ask Obama.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:41 AM
 
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I remember reading a book in college a few years back about extremist groups in America, the vast majority of which ended up being white supremacist organizations. I used to think it was just KKK, Nazi, skinheads, etc but there are WAY WAY WAY more white extremist groups in the US who aren't given media attention that you'd of never know existed without reading/researching books on extremism in America. What bothered me is that most if not all of these white supremacists groups, profess a central theme of being Christian organizations aimed with the ideology of not only promoting the white race but also Christianity. Most of them don't just hate non-whites, but also non-Christians. Some of them even have founded actual Christian sects with their own churches, denominations, organizations etc. It got me thinking back to when KKK burned crosses on people's yards, how some of the slave ships that Africans were brought on were named after biblical figures even having a slave ship called "Jesus", and how some of the settlers here and also in South America killed Indians believing them to be non-Christian heathens, and how this country has a long history of white supremacy using Christianity.

Is this stuff accepted in Christianity?
Was one of your professors named Ward Churchill? He taught a lot of this misinformation.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:43 AM
 
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Which makes it ironic how so many on the right wing spectrum of politics went berserk when Obama was elected and began to let their racist slurs out of the closet - many of them regular church-going folk too. There is a lot of racism alive and kicking in the U.S. even in "Christian" circles including in my own family (two of my brothers are bigots) one is Christian and one is atheist.
Proves there are wackos in every group.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:51 AM
 
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there are so many types of "christians" that anyone can become confused. You have the racist, the money hungry ones selling every nick-nack for profit, you have the ones that say you can do this or that, you have those who are always pissed off, you have those who seem to know more about politics than what is in the bible, have a passion to speak of politics all day, but you still have those who truly try to understand what was written and learn to love those around them.
We see that in the bible when Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple. Yes, he got mad and whipped them until they ran out.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:55 AM
 
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Even Hitler during one of his speeches from 1943 ..``.That priest are not necessary either to God or to soul, because they are money-grubbers and so on and so forth, bent upon nothing but advancement in their profession and so on an so forth , that when the war [WW11] is over, of course with Germany`s victory, a new religion will be set up , new real temples will be opened , and there will go and see the consummation of the sacrifice during which there will be brought the bread given to the German people and the blood of the same ``...Words of a quote uttered by Hitler to his citizens .........................See the spirit of antichrist through Hitler from the WW11 had a deception to set up a new Church rejecting the authorship of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice , and building a sacrifice of man which He never did , but the theosophy of neo-Nazi still have this false religions of antichrist.....
History has had many anti-Christs through the years. Those who are trying to get rid of Jesus and telling us to worship them. That is what the bible warns us against.
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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TRUE Christianity is color-blind. And, yes, we have told our children we would be delighted if they married a person of another color, so long as that person is dedicated to the Lord Jesus and truly loves them. "Of like precious faith" is the mark; not "of like skin."
"Jesus loves the little children of the world" is one of the most Biblically-sound children's hymns in existence; and is also a strongly Biblical statement.
If anyone hates, belittles, negates as less-important, etc. a person because they are Jewish, Black, Arabian, Chinese, Salvadorian, etc. etc. etc. then they deny the love of Christ. They also deny His supreme sacrifice for all sinners.
In heaven the Bible tells us that there will be redeemed from every tribe, nation and tongue.
In the book of Acts it says that we are all of "one blood."
The Black man, the Jewish woman, the Japanese little boy, the Norwegian little girl are all of one race...the human race.
Our prayer at NT Fellowship is that God would give us people from a wide variety of ethnic/color/country backgrounds. After 20+ years in the Navy, the Lord gave us so many opportunities to meet people of a wide variety of colors and backgrounds that "only white" is just too...vanilla!
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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I remember reading a book in college a few years back about extremist groups in America, the vast majority of which ended up being white supremacist organizations. I used to think it was just KKK, Nazi, skinheads, etc but there are WAY WAY WAY more white extremist groups in the US who aren't given media attention that you'd of never know existed without reading/researching books on extremism in America. What bothered me is that most if not all of these white supremacists groups, profess a central theme of being Christian organizations aimed with the ideology of not only promoting the white race but also Christianity. Most of them don't just hate non-whites, but also non-Christians. Some of them even have founded actual Christian sects with their own churches, denominations, organizations etc. It got me thinking back to when KKK burned crosses on people's yards, how some of the slave ships that Africans were brought on were named after biblical figures even having a slave ship called "Jesus", and how some of the settlers here and also in South America killed Indians believing them to be non-Christian heathens, and how this country has a long history of white supremacy using Christianity.

Is this stuff accepted in Christianity?
There's a lot of things in the Bible that can be misinterpreted to justify hate based upon race. Most notably Southern Baptist Church was actually founded to protect the institution of black slavery. There were offshoots of many Protestant faiths who went the same route but the SBC is by for the most significant player here. The SBC and other religions came up with a whole lot of fanciful nonsense to support the slavery, all based on passages in the Bible. Through the ages, Christians have massacred pagans and heretics in alarming ways and numbers. Religious, ethnic and racial bigotry is the heritage of every Christian religion. There are precious few exceptions.

The good news is that all Christendom has, for the most part, gotten over it. Religions with bigotry in their past have almost universally put that past behind them. That is a move towards true Christianity. The SBC has worked hard to rid itself of past mistakes, as have other Christian religions. Racism and bigotry of any kind has no place in Christianity. The idiots in the KKK, Stormfront and the like living a lie if they want to call themselves Christians.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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I remember reading a book in college a few years back about extremist groups in America, the vast majority of which ended up being white supremacist organizations. I used to think it was just KKK, Nazi, skinheads, etc but there are WAY WAY WAY more white extremist groups in the US who aren't given media attention that you'd of never know existed without reading/researching books on extremism in America. What bothered me is that most if not all of these white supremacists groups, profess a central theme of being Christian organizations aimed with the ideology of not only promoting the white race but also Christianity. Most of them don't just hate non-whites, but also non-Christians. Some of them even have founded actual Christian sects with their own churches, denominations, organizations etc. It got me thinking back to when KKK burned crosses on people's yards, how some of the slave ships that Africans were brought on were named after biblical figures even having a slave ship called "Jesus", and how some of the settlers here and also in South America killed Indians believing them to be non-Christian heathens, and how this country has a long history of white supremacy using Christianity.

Is this stuff accepted in Christianity?


Jesus religion was murdered along with the apostles and Christians who were thrown to wild animals in the collosium. The world hates the truth Jesus brought because it exposes their wickedness--it didn't come back until these last days-Daniel 12:4) now truth is abundant but 99% still hate it.
This popped up 1750 years ago the tree trunk and all of its branches started about the 1500,s). 2Thess 2:3--2Cor 11:12-15
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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TRUE Christianity is color-blind. And, yes, we have told our children we would be delighted if they married a person of another color, so long as that person is dedicated to the Lord Jesus and truly loves them. "Of like precious faith" is the mark; not "of like skin."
"Jesus loves the little children of the world" is one of the most Biblically-sound children's hymns in existence; and is also a strongly Biblical statement.
If anyone hates, belittles, negates as less-important, etc. a person because they are Jewish, Black, Arabian, Chinese, Salvadorian, etc. etc. etc. then they deny the love of Christ. They also deny His supreme sacrifice for all sinners.
In heaven the Bible tells us that there will be redeemed from every tribe, nation and tongue.
In the book of Acts it says that we are all of "one blood."
The Black man, the Jewish woman, the Japanese little boy, the Norwegian little girl are all of one race...the human race.
Our prayer at NT Fellowship is that God would give us people from a wide variety of ethnic/color/country backgrounds. After 20+ years in the Navy, the Lord gave us so many opportunities to meet people of a wide variety of colors and backgrounds that "only white" is just too...vanilla!
So, you'll be delighted if they married a person of another color. Just curious... Would you be delighted if they married a Jew? How about a Catholic? Sounds like you wouldn't be "delighted".

What's the difference between saying, 'She's not the right color' and 'She's not the right religion'?
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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...snip....
If anyone hates, belittles, negates as less-important, etc. a person because they are Jewish, Black, Arabian, Chinese, Salvadorian, etc. etc. etc. then they deny the love of Christ. They also deny His supreme sacrifice for all sinners.
...snip....
How about if they're gay?
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