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Mike, these are people who in their own minds - put limits on what God can and can't do. They (three of them) have already claimed to refuse to worship God if He punished anyone eternally. God will handle them as He sees fit.
You will never convince them because they are operating with their own playbook.
Mike, these are people who in their own minds - put limits on what God can and can't do. They (three of them) have already claimed to refuse to worship God if He punished anyone eternally. God will handle them as He sees fit.
We understand what God has taught us about Good and Evil, right and wrong, just and unjust. You apparently do not and think it does not apply to God for some inexplicable reason. Why would God teach us to discern Good and Evil and then expect us to ignore it and accept Evil because supposedly He is doing it??? If I were ignoring what God taught us using "precepts and doctrines of men" . . . I would be the one worrying about God's reaction.
We understand what God has taught us about Good and Evil, right and wrong, just and unjust. You apparently do not and think it does not apply to God for some inexplicable reason. Why would God teach us to discern Good and Evil and then expect us to ignore it and accept Evil because supposedly He is doing it??? If I were ignoring what God taught us using "precepts and doctrines of men" . . . I would be the one worrying about God's reaction.
This is when you get out your Bible, and read it, and decide whether or not you are going to believe it - or your own theology.
The Bible says God is love. The Bible says God is righteous. The Bible says God can not sin. Those are attributes that will NEVER change.
However, you can't escape the verses that portray eternal destruction - Matt 25:46, Romans 9:22-24, 2 Thessalonians 1:9-10, and Revelation 20:11-15.
So you have a choice. You can believe what the Bible says - let God be God and do what He desires - and trust Him and His judgments - while at the same time not compromising His attributes. Or you can change the Bible to your beliefs - by playing games with the words, or by limiting your theology only to what makes sense to you, even though God says His ways are not our ways.
Will you acknowledge that Scripture indicates physical death is the cut-off for salvation?
This would mean that you believe there is something WE must do before we die to be saved . . . but we have nothing to do with our salvation. Christ did that for us all. We are responsible for our sanctification . . . NOT our salvation. That affects what we will reap from what we sow . . . hay, stubble, wood or gold, silver, etc.
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Originally Posted by Mike555
John 3:16 means that those who do not accept Christ as savior before physical death will not see life in the future.
Refer to post #59.
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Mike, these are people who in their own minds - put limits on what God can and can't do.
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Yeah, that goes without saying, but I am not sure which ones you are talking about?
LOL . . . they do seem to be oblivious to their own limiting of God's mercy and forgiveness!
This is when you get out your Bible, and read it, and decide whether or not you are going to believe it - or your own theology.
The Bible says God is love. The Bible says God is righteous. The Bible says God can not sin. Those are attributes that will NEVER change.
However, you can't escape the verses that portray eternal destruction - Matt 25:46, Romans 9:22-24, 2 Thessalonians 1:9-10, and Revelation 20:11-15.
So you have a choice. You can believe what the Bible says - let God be God and do what He desires - and trust Him and His judgments. Or you can change the Bible to your beliefs - by playing games with the words, or by limiting your theology only to what makes sense to you, even though God says His ways are not our ways.
Your choice.
Eternal destruction is fabulous news to me.
And I still believe that Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL mankind.
Eternal destruction is fabulous news to me.
And I still believe that Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL mankind.
Who said anything about fabulous?
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which ones you are talking about? 
