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Old 06-22-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: New England
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Easy Believism is promoted by those who claim "everybody" is or will be saved and Jesus did not shed His blood to cover our sins.
Easy believism is blind faith in a inerrant bible taken literally. I could wait until the cows come home for you to prove by the inerrant bible you believe in, that Jesus Christ covered our sins.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Easy believism is blind faith in a inerrant bible taken literally. I could wait until the cows come home for you to prove by the inerrant bible you believe in, that Jesus Christ covered our sins.
They continue to "Crucify him," even to this very day.
Dividing his garments up amongst themselves.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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This thread is so full of so called scientific nonsense. Nonsense because real science deals with observable facts of space, time and matter/energy not the stuff of human spirit or God's Spirit that makes humanity so different then what is observable by the scientific methods. And yet we know that the spirit of man is real and yet unseen and immeasurable by science. And where did spirit come from if not from a Creator? There is no science that can answer the question of God or spirit. The laws of the spirit are both written in the heart and mind of man and in the Bible as a reminder of who we are and what we can become but tragically ignored by so called intelligent men.

Love, hate, emotions and thought are not known to science but rather science is known by the mind. If your world view of things is only based on science and not also on the intuitive things of the spirit, then who are you? The hollow man? The walking computer with only electrical pulses for a brain?

Truly, logic/reason born only of flawed science by flawed men is too bizarre when used to describe a human being or whether or not God exist let alone if even humanity/you can even exist. The only satisfactory reason for us to exist is founded upon the fact that His Spirit supersedes our primitive logic of only a materialistic creation to explain our existence! The reconnect to fully developing as complete human beings and as a righteous society is found only in Christ, the One and only Quickening Spirit.

Truly it is written, "We are fearfully and wonderfully made." How wonderful can not be known by mere scientific methods. As it is written, ""Not by might [of man] nor by power [of natural forces] but by My Spirit says the Lord."
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Prove that from scripture!

The scripture is in the New Testament, not the Old, read my statement again.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: In a state of Grace
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The scripture is in the New Testament, not the Old, read my statement again.
The scripture is both the Old and New testament as we call it. And you have provided no proof for your statement from scripture yet. Can you? Show us all the factual history given by God to us in His scripture is not true. Show us!
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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This thread is so full of so called scientific nonsense. Nonsense because real science deals with observable facts of space, time and matter/energy not the stuff of human spirit or God's Spirit that makes humanity so different then what is observable by the scientific methods. And yet we know that the spirit of man is real and yet unseen and immeasurable by science. And where did spirit come from if not from a Creator? There is no science that can answer the question of God or spirit. The laws of the spirit are both written in the heart and mind of man and in the Bible as a reminder of who we are and what we can become but tragically ignored by so called intelligent men.

Love, hate, emotions and thought are not known to science but rather science is known by the mind. If your world view of things is only based on science and not also on the intuitive things of the spirit, then who are you? The hollow man? The walking computer with only electrical pulses for a brain?
You could make the same argument based on the written words of men?
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Truly, logic/reason born only of flawed science by flawed men is too bizarre when used to describe a human being or whether or not God exist let alone if even humanity/you can even exist. The only satisfactory reason for us to exist is founded upon the fact that His Spirit supersedes our primitive logic of only a materialistic creation to explain our existence! The reconnect to fully developing as complete human beings and as a righteous society is found only in Christ, the One and only Quickening Spirit.

Truly it is written, "We are fearfully and wonderfully made." How wonderful can not be known by mere scientific methods. As it is written, ""Not by might [of man] nor by power [of natural forces] but by My Spirit says the Lord."
Apparently, some men were/are intelligent or intuitive.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Prove that from scripture!
I don't need to prove it. The Story of Creation is based on Religious Truth.

You cannot look up this event and get the exact facts on it like you can for example, September 11, or Pearl Harbor can you?

Again, it doesn't mean that those events didn't take place, but I strongly believe it shouldn't be taken literally.

The bottom line is this: Regardless in which way you believe you were formed, through apes, or Adam and Eve. No matter which way you believe the earth was formed, there has to be a creator of all things, the beginner, the mover. If you believe that, then the Adam and Eve truth debate really doesn't matter.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: In a state of Grace
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I don't need to prove it. The Story of Creation is based on Religious Truth.

You cannot look up this event and get the exact facts on it like you can for example, September 11, or Pearl Harbor can you?

Again, it doesn't mean that those events didn't take place, but I strongly believe it shouldn't be taken literally.

The bottom line is this: Regardless in which way you believe you were formed, through apes, or Adam and Eve. No matter which way you believe the earth was formed, there has to be a creator of all things, the beginner, the mover. If you believe that, then the Adam and Eve truth debate really doesn't matter.
The creation story is God's word of truth of what He did. You deny the truth of God's word. This is the same attack that satan has used from the very beginning. This idea is of satan and you must reject satan and follow God.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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You could make the same argument based on the written words of men?
Apparently, some men were/are intelligent or intuitive.
It is written, "We know the things of the Spirit by the Spirit given to us but if any man has not the Spirit, he does not belong to Him." This does not mean however that a man would know everything but that the Spirit would guide over time to the things we are able to understand and to continue to grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ for our completeness, joy and rooting in the gift of Eternal Life.

It seems that that you just want to argue for the sake of arguing/debating and yet you profess to be a believer. Why is that?
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You could make the same argument based on the written words of men?
Apparently, some men were/are intelligent or intuitive.
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It is written, "We know the things of the Spirit by the Spirit given to us but if any man has not the Spirit, he does not belong to Him." This does not mean however that a man would know everything but that the Spirit would guide over time to the things we are able to understand and to continue to grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ for our completeness, joy and rooting in the gift of Eternal Life.

It seems that that you just want to argue for the sake of arguing/debating and yet you profess to be a believer. Why is that?
Pointing out something is not necessarily an argument; it's more of an observation.
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