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As far as I can see, the son doesn't get a mention in the first 3 translations .
Am I right Thrill ?. What do I win ?.
Actually, I posted a challenge in another thread, pcamps. Not sure if you're referring to that about 1 Corinthians. But here is the passage:
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3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
The only possible mistake I see in that passage, Thrill, is that it says Christ appeared to Cephas (Peter) and then to the 12. Judas I believe killed himself before the resurrection. I don't think they chose Matthias before they knew of the resurrection.
Now check out the SAME verse from three other translations:
The Son has to know because all things were given onto Him. Also, those that have the Father and the Son can therefore know also. For what reason would the Father keep it from Him?
My point is that 50% of translations exempt Jesus from not knowing the Father's future plans. The other 50% include Him with the angels not knowing. So which is it? Does He know the day and hour or doesn't He?
Somewhere along the way in the early part of the Church the copiers apparently had a problem with Jesus displaying a lack of divinity in not knowing so they obviously deleted the phrase "nor the Son".
I'm shocked people find this of little or no relevance.
Lastly, my point is not to discredit the Bible, it's just to show that it is a unique book with flaws that the Fundies are absolutely unwilling to acknowledge.
Jesus knew ahead of time that He was supposed to die. That's in every translation.
Jesus knew ahead of time that after three says, the Father would raise Him from the dead. That's in every translation.
Jesus knew ahead of time that Peter would deny Him three times. That's in every translation.
Jesus knew ahead of time that His disciples would scatter amidst the persecution.
So all of the translations include those instances of Jesus knowing future plans. Your 50% number is flawed. Don't cause confusion with a minor translation issue that does not change the context of what is taking place.
Scarlet got it right below in #18. They hadn't chosen Matthias until after Jesus ascended so how could Jesus have appeared to the "12". Judas was already dead so there was only "11".
Jesus knew ahead of time that He was supposed to die. That's in every translation.
Jesus knew ahead of time that after three says, the Father would raise Him from the dead. That's in every translation.
Jesus knew ahead of time that Peter would deny Him three times. That's in every translation.
Jesus knew ahead of time that His disciples would scatter amidst the persecution.
So all of the translations include those instances of Jesus knowing future plans. Your 50% number is flawed. Don't cause confusion with a minor translation issue that does not change the context of what is taking place.
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