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Old 07-08-2013, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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So you want to be Catholic?

Peter receives the authority (keys) to run Jesus's Church.

The Church is the gateway to the Kingdom of Heaven and is given the Authority on earth to teach His people about the good word. The Bible you read would not exist if it weren't for His Church. Rejecting his church is rejecting Jesus.

Catholic Apologetics: Powers of the Keys
Back to my question......just where is it that Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is?
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:33 AM
 
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It is a religious rank that catholics believe is honorable or prestigious to God. Anyone who believes in Jesus alone for their salvation is a saint according to the bible. Catholics do not believe this. God's grace puts all of us on equal ground. If you believe in Jesus your righteousness is just as much as the next believer because it is Jesus' righteousness, not yours. Catholics do not believe this either. They believe in works, praying through saints and Mary before statues shaped into what they think looks like them, big churches and religious practices to earn your salvation or maintain it and its all an insult to the grace of God. The ranks catholics have created within their church is just another work of their hands they believe God finds pleasing or favorable.

Catholic issues? Are you even Catholic or are you just tossing out your version of how the Roman Catholic Church is?
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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It is a religious rank that catholics believe is honorable or prestigious to God. Anyone who believes in Jesus alone for their salvation is a saint according to the bible. Catholics do not believe this. God's grace puts all of us on equal ground. If you believe in Jesus your righteousness is just as much as the next believer because it is Jesus' righteousness, not yours. Catholics do not believe this either. They believe in works, praying through saints and Mary before statues shaped into what they think looks like them, big churches and religious practices to earn your salvation or maintain it and its all an insult to the grace of God. The ranks catholics have created within their church is just another work of their hands they believe God finds pleasing or favorable.
not realistic of catholicism
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:11 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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can they be unsainted. what happens when it is revealed that some of these saints had evil in their hearts? does God have the power over them to make them unsaints?
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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can they be unsainted. what happens when it is revealed that some of these saints had evil in their hearts? does God have the power over them to make them unsaints?
Interesting question. Relatively recently the Roman Organization reviewed several and "defrocked" or at least removed from the calendar of "Saint's days." Some they determined there was not enough evidence for, including the old favorite "St Christopher."
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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It is a religious rank that catholics believe is honorable or prestigious to God. Anyone who believes in Jesus alone for their salvation is a saint according to the bible. Catholics do not believe this. God's grace puts all of us on equal ground. If you believe in Jesus your righteousness is just as much as the next believer because it is Jesus' righteousness, not yours. Catholics do not believe this either. They believe in works, praying through saints and Mary before statues shaped into what they think looks like them, big churches and religious practices to earn your salvation or maintain it and its all an insult to the grace of God. The ranks catholics have created within their church is just another work of their hands they believe God finds pleasing or favorable.
Just more ignorant Catholic bashing, by those who have no clue. Is your "faith" in whatever your denomination is so shaky that you, along with many others, have to constantly spew falsehoods about the Catholic Church?
And, please, enough of the self-righteous posturing. Believe what you will, but don't think that I'm buying what your'e selling.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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Just more ignorant Catholic bashing, by those who have no clue. Is your "faith" in whatever your denomination is so shaky that you, along with many others, have to constantly spew falsehoods about the Catholic Church?
And, please, enough of the self-righteous posturing. Believe what you will, but don't think that I'm buying what your'e selling.
Then what's with all the Mary worship? Mary is not the queen of Heaven. Nowhere in the bible does it say Mary is the queen of Heaven. She was chosen by God to be the birth mother of Jesus just like God chose others in the bible to bring His plan further to completion. It does not mean they were anymore or less valuable than anyone else. She is/was a sinner like everyone else on Earth. Catholicism makes people in the bible who were chosen by God to be or do certain things out to be like upper ranks amongst humans. They are not. Everyone who believes in Jesus for their salvation receives the same thing, eternal life in Heaven. Grace puts everyone on equal ground and we are saved by God's grace. It is a gift, not a reward.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: In a state of Grace
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Then what's with all the Mary worship? Mary is not the queen of Heaven. Nowhere in the bible does it say Mary is the queen of Heaven. She was chosen by God to be the birth mother of Jesus just like God chose others in the bible to bring His plan further to completion. It does not mean they were anymore or less valuable than anyone else. She is/was a sinner like everyone else on Earth. Catholicism makes people in the bible who were chosen by God to be or do certain things out to be like upper ranks amongst humans. They are not. Everyone who believes in Jesus for their salvation receives the same thing, eternal life in Heaven. Grace puts everyone on equal ground and we are saved by God's grace. It is a gift, not a reward.
I never understood why the Roman organization teaches to reject the teachings of Jesus Christ and then want you to think they are His church.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Then what's with all the Mary worship? Mary is not the queen of Heaven. Nowhere in the bible does it say Mary is the queen of Heaven. She was chosen by God to be the birth mother of Jesus just like God chose others in the bible to bring His plan further to completion. It does not mean they were anymore or less valuable than anyone else. She is/was a sinner like everyone else on Earth. Catholicism makes people in the bible who were chosen by God to be or do certain things out to be like upper ranks amongst humans. They are not. Everyone who believes in Jesus for their salvation receives the same thing, eternal life in Heaven. Grace puts everyone on equal ground and we are saved by God's grace. It is a gift, not a reward.


Catholicism is 2000 years old and therefore it is full of a rich cultural heritage and traditions. Catholicism is not a new Protestant sect with no history or background. In Catholicism we have old traditions that protestants cannot have since some of those Protestant sects were created just the other day.

Mary is not God, she is the mother of Jesus and she is honored in the church. Likewise, we honor men and women that emulated Christ and called them saints.

BTW, the Hail Mary is in the Bible.

The problem is you do not understand old traditions and rituals because some Protestant sects have no history.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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I never understood why the Roman organization teaches to reject the teachings of Jesus Christ and then want you to think they are His church.
The "Roman organization"???? Is that your pathetic idea of a slap at Holy Mother the Church? Nice attitude for someone who I'm certain self-righteously convinced himself that he's the epitome of a "Christian."
Those of your ilk seem so threatened by the Church, which has been around for over 2,000 years, and will be for 2,000 more years.
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