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Old 09-05-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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Unconditional only mean no animal offerings today to be saved---Ephesians 2:8.

Conditional today mean water baptism to get grace---John 3:5.

Unconditional only mean no circumcision today to be saved---Ephesians 2:8.

Conditional today mean the Sabbath to get grace---Hebrews 4.

Unconditional only mean no cleaning laws to be saved today---Ephesians 2:8.

Conditional today mean bible editing rules to get grace---Rev. 22:18-19.

Unconditional today only mean no natural high priest to be saved---Ephesians 2:8.

Conditional today mean marriage to undivorced people to get grace---Romans 7:2-3.

Time for 100% bible believers to unite like never before--John 8:31 and Psalms 133:1.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:18 PM
 
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Default Is Grace Conditional Or Unconditional To Be Saved?

Grace is unconditional and WE have nothing to do with being saved, TonyX3. Christ is the Savior . . . NOT your 100% Bible belief..
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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If grace is conditional then it is no longer grace, which means unearned, undeserved and unmerited favor.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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If grace is conditional then it is no longer grace, which means unearned, undeserved and unmerited favor.
Correct me if I am wrong, but you think Calvinism is heretical, right?
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:51 PM
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but you think Calvinism is heretical, right?
I'm not sure what I have ever said that would make someone think I believe that. So no, I don't. Calvinism teaches predestined salvation. I believe everyone who comes to Jesus for their salvation is part of the predestined and it is only a set number because God knows the future. However, it is not some saved cap that God has put in place as many believe. I believe if the 7 billion people of the world came to Jesus tonight they would all be saved.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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I believe if the 7 billion people of the world came to Jesus tonight they would all be saved.
Faith is not believing, that He can; it's knowing, that He Will.
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:17 AM
 
Location: New England
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Faith is not believing, that He can; it's knowing, that He Will.
It cannot be expressed any clearer.

For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Oviedo
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Ephesians 2:8
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