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View Poll Results: Did Adam & Eve, Abraham, and Noad Observe the Sabbath Day
YES, but it was not recorded in scriptures 6 25.00%
NO, there was no command to do so until Moses 18 75.00%
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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Sunday rest
The origin of Sunday worship in the 1st or 2nd century remains a debated point. Often first-day worship (Sunday morning or Saturday night) was practiced alongside observance of seventh-day Sabbath rest and was a widespread Christian tradition by the 2nd century;over time, Sunday thus came to be known as Lord's Day and, later, a rest day.
On March 7, 321, the Roman Emperor Constantine issued a decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating:
All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun. Country people, however, may freely attend to the cultivation of the fields, because it frequently happens that no other days are better adapted for planting the grain in the furrows or the vines in trenches. So that the advantage given by heavenly providence may not for the occasion of a short time perish.
Some church authorities opposed widespread seventh-day Sabbath observance as a Judaizing tendency. For example, the Council of Laodicea (canon 29) required Christians to separate from Jewish laws and traditions, stating that Christians must not Judaize by resting on Sabbath, but must work that day and then, if possible, rest on the Lord's Day, and that any found to be Judaizers were declared anathema from Christ. This was consistent with Constantine's personal position towards Jewry, which has been described by the primitive Christianity movement as being anti-Semitic, antinomian, and persecution of seventh-day observers.Simultaneously Rabbinical Judaism was distinguishing itself from primitive Christianity. - Sabbath in Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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Early Christianity is the period of Christianity preceding the First Council of Nicaea in 325. It is typically divided into the Apostolic Age and the Ante-Nicene Period (from the Apostolic Age until Nicea).
The first Christians, as described in the first chapters of the Acts of the Apostles, were all Jewish, either by birth, or conversion for which the biblical term proselyte is used, and referred to by historians as the Jewish Christians. The early Gospel message was spread orally; probably in Aramaic, but almost immediately also in Greek. The New Testament's Book of Acts and Epistle to the Galatians record that the first Christian community was centered in Jerusalem and its leaders included Peter, James, and John. Paul of Tarsus, after his conversion to Christianity, claimed the title of "Apostle to the Gentiles". Paul's influence on Christian thinking is said to be more significant than any other New Testament authors. By the end of the 1st century, Christianity began to be recognized internally and externally as a separate religion from Judaism which itself was refined and developed further in the centuries after the destruction of the Second Jerusalem Temple.
Numerous quotations in the New Testament and other Christian writings of the 1st centuries, indicate that early Christians generally used and revered the Jewish Bible (the Tanakh) as Scripture, mostly in the Greek (Septuagint) or Aramaic (Targum) translations.
As the New Testament canon developed, the Letters of Paul, the canonical gospels and various other works were also recognized as scripture to be read in church. Paul's letters, especially Romans, established a theology based on Christ rather than on the Mosaic Law, but most Christian denominations today still consider the "moral prescriptions" of the Mosaic Law, such as the Ten Commandments, Great Commandment, and Golden Rule, to be relevant. Early Christians demonstrated a wide range of beliefs and practices, many of which were later denounced as heretical. - Sabbath in Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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Didn't Adam partake of the evil fruit on the Sabbath? And Abraham make that offering of his son on the Sabbath? And I thought Noah built the ark 24/7 7 days a week?

Seems many bad things happened on the Sabbath, maybe that is why God said no more work on that day..

And if it wasn't "commanded" does that mean God "changed" and developed a new attitude?
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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This is not a you must observe the Sabbath Debate or Condemnation for those who don't or Praise for those who do, but a general question about that debate.

Genesis 2-3


2 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.


I hear so many say this verse is proof that the Sabbath existed since creation.


I don't see any record of it in scriptures showing that they did observe it, but the argument can go both ways that they either did and it is not recorded or they didnt because there was no command to do so until the time of Moses.
God is still resting from creation. The 7th day of creation as it were, is a rest day. No new creation until the current mess Adam started is fixed. Then God can end His rest, which we are told is still on going. God did not rest from everything anymore than an Israelite in Moses day did absolutely nothing on the sabbath.
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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The bible does not say for certain. The seventh day was hallowed right from the beginning of creation.
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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I didn't vote.

Wish there would have been an "Maybe - but it was not recorded in scriptures" option.

The law came through Moses, and it was Moses that told us about Adam, Eve, Abraham, and Noah. (Is Genesis law?)

We know they offered sacrifices that were most likely for sin, and we must assume they were in a like manner of the ones given to Israel. If they did keep the Sabbath we know that they had stopped by the time Moses was around, or at least that's the way it seems.
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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My best guess is I don't know. And there is no way of knowing. Many of the things that were commanded through Moses already existed before then. Tithing exists before, and the moral law is written in men's hearts, so most of the 10 Commandments were almost certainly followed. But the Sabbath?
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Old 03-15-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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I'm not aware of a command to do so until Moses.
Sorry this is incorrect. Now the passover had not occurred yet.
Eccl ch 11;1 give a portion to 7 and to 8.
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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Genesis
The Creation of Eve
Genesis 2

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
The rain that had not come is the Holy Spirit of pentecost. The breath of life is the 8th day and the Holy Spirit that sheperds man back to the eden the mist that comes out from the ground the hoar frost of exodus. To the east is the gate spoken of by Ezekiel which the Lord came in from. If one understands what it means to keep the 7 unto the Lord. For all the scripture pertaining to wickedness it is in the 6 days but if one tries to bring that wickedness to the 7th it is a woe for that person.
Mark ch2…26how he entered the house of God in the time of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the consecrated bread, which is not lawful for anyone to eat except the priests, and he also gave it to those who were with him?" 27Jesus said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28"So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."
There may be no direct mention of the sabbath( in linguistic terms) but it was prophesied in Genesis. We are the creation eden is the temple that we are cast out for sin and can only return with Jesus through the Gate he chooses.
Leviticus Ch16 Blood to the" EAST "(7 times) Angels whisper unreal things in our ears.
14 And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times.

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Old 03-16-2015, 02:53 AM
 
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Sabbath is simply a day of not doing work. It wasn't until the Talmud was written that it became a laundry list of things not to be done by Jews. Israelis still work six days a week, while the Christians have turned into two days a week.

So if we go by the Talmud which is commentary on the Torah (Jewish Bible), work done in relation to saving or keeping one alive allows one to violate the Sabbath. So if Noah and Abraham were herdsmen, then tending to their animals was related to saving life as the herds had to eat and drink daily. As to Adam & Eve, they probably had no Sabbath as they had to forage daily for food to survive.
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