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Col 2:16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Jesus was already back in heaven when this was written , so he already came, so "mere shadow of what is to come" clearly points to the future, not past.
So why is it that everything that God listed as unclean that was toxic for the human body 5000yrs ago, is still not good for the human body today?
The ceremonial/sacrificial stuff that was fulfilled and done away with was animal sacrifices and burnt offerings for our sins. Not eating a skunk or snake isnt ceremonial, it is God protecting you by telling you what is not meant for food. You can pray over a poisonous rattle snake all you want, but if it kills you you can wonder why when God said it was never meant for food.
But back to the topic I was talking about. Matthew 15 and Mark 7 are about not doing ceremonial hand washings doesnt make you unclean, so we as Christians cant keep trying to use those verse that have nothing to do with dietary laws and then say that we can eat whatever we want based on Matt 15 & Mark 7.
Why did Paul say it was ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols?...
Col 2:16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Jesus was already back in heaven when this was written , so he already came, so "mere shadow of what is to come" clearly points to the future, not past.
So why is it that everything that God listed as unclean that was toxic for the human body 5000yrs ago, is still not good for the human body today?
The ceremonial/sacrificial stuff that was fulfilled and done away with was animal sacrifices and burnt offerings for our sins. Not eating a skunk or snake isnt ceremonial, it is God protecting you by telling you what is not meant for food. You can pray over a poisonous rattle snake all you want, but if it kills you you can wonder why when God said it was never meant for food.
But back to the topic I was talking about. Matthew 15 and Mark 7 are about not doing ceremonial hand washings doesnt make you unclean, so we as Christians cant keep trying to use those verse that have nothing to do with dietary laws and then say that we can eat whatever we want based on Matt 15 & Mark 7.
Saan, Paul refutes you in 1 Cor. 10:25-31 as shown in post #8.
Genesis 9:3 also refutes you. Long before God gave dietary restrictions to Israel, God told Noah;
Genesis 9:3 ''Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4] Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
Also as shown in post #8, it is ceremonial uncleanness which is being referred to, and which should be obvious to you from Leviticus 11.
As for the foods mentioned being toxic, let's take pork for example. (Leviticus 11:7). Pork when properly prepared is not toxic. Pork in moderation is okay to eat.
As for Matthew 15:17-20, Jesus was saying that one is not defiled by eating with unwashed hands, but rather, one is defiled by what is in the heart and expressed with the mouth.
Making an issue out of dietary restrictions which were given to Israel, and trying to apply them to the church is legalism. It's no different than claiming that the church must observe Israel's Sabbath.
I doubt though that you will listen. And I've already spent too much time on this.
Col 2:16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Jesus was already back in heaven when this was written , so he already came, so "mere shadow of what is to come" clearly points to the future, not past.
So why is it that everything that God listed as unclean that was toxic for the human body 5000yrs ago, is still not good for the human body today?
The ceremonial/sacrificial stuff that was fulfilled and done away with was animal sacrifices and burnt offerings for our sins. Not eating a skunk or snake isnt ceremonial, it is God protecting you by telling you what is not meant for food. You can pray over a poisonous rattle snake all you want, but if it kills you you can wonder why when God said it was never meant for food.
But back to the topic I was talking about. Matthew 15 and Mark 7 are about not doing ceremonial hand washings doesnt make you unclean, so we as Christians cant keep trying to use those verse that have nothing to do with dietary laws and then say that we can eat whatever we want based on Matt 15 & Mark 7.
Eating rattle snake won't kill you. Catching it may, but eating it certainly won't.
My grand pa made the best rattle snake stew.
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Saan, Paul refutes you in 1 Cor. 10:25-31 as shown in post #8.
Genesis 9:3 also refutes you. Long before God gave dietary restrictions to Israel, God told Noah;
Genesis 9:3 ''Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4] Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
Also as shown in post #8, it is ceremonial uncleanness which is being referred to, and which should be obvious to you from Leviticus 11.
As for the foods mentioned being toxic, let's take pork for example. (Leviticus 11:7). Pork when properly prepared is not toxic. Pork in moderation is okay to eat.
As for Matthew 15:17-20, Jesus was saying that one is not defiled by eating with unwashed hands, but rather, one is defiled by what is in the heart and expressed with the mouth.
Making an issue out of dietary restrictions which were given to Israel, and trying to apply them to the church is legalism. It's no different than claiming that the church must observe Israel's Sabbath.
I doubt though that you will listen. And I've already spent too much time on this.
Do you believe anything you read?...Pork and the fats contained in the meat play havoc with your digestive system...
Like anything else, overindulgence in any food can be harmful. Some foods that are fine in moderation are harmful in quantity, the point is to know which is what and act accordingly.
What amazes me is the post was titled The misunderstood verses, Mark 7:19 & Matthew 15:20 and I think it is very clear that those verses and the chapter in proper context is referring to not eating with unwashed hands doesn't make a person unclean. Nothing in those parallel chapters even shows the issue at hand was about the dietary laws, yet Col. 2:16-17, Genesis 9:3, 1 Cor. 10:25-31, 1 Tim. 4:1, and Rom. 14:1 get brought into the argument and they have nothing to do with if eating with unwashed hands makes a person unclean.
I swear Christians get super sensitive if pork/ shellfish is even mentioned. I even clarified and said this was not a dont eat pork/shellfish post, but to rather see those 2 chapters in their correct context and stop using them out of their context.
@nateswift , you are correct that moderation is the key. Someone that eats pork and shrimp everyday will be equally unhealthy as someone who eats our modern day steroid filled/chemically chicken everyday, if its deep fried or soaked in grease. It will be natrually toxic vs bio-toxic.
These verses are used all the time to say Jesus canceled the dietary laws.
Jesus didn't cancel the law. He said this explicitly many times. Rather, he FULFILLED the law by offering himself as the perfect sacrifice, which one and for all time satisfied the need to atone for sin. When a person accepts the sacrifice of Christ, they are covered by that once of all sacrifice.
Obey the dietary laws if you choose, but only as a witness and a testimony. Otherwise, they have no benefit that exceeds the blood of Christ.
If God didn't want us to eat pork why did He make BACON??!
Ur nst slly...
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