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If you say so, but what I said is still true. People are offended by the Gospel itself, which is the topic of the thread.
Show anyone you believe is a sinner from the 4 gospels other than a pharisee that Jesus offended or they were offended by Jesus. Every single time it was those who persecuted the prophets, that's right the religious heirarchy,and not those you so easily condemn, trying to make out they hate the light(all that Jesus represented) like you do. The pharisees were offended by everything he did, everything he did was light manifested. So take your tar brush and tar yourself with it. Sinners love Jesus when they get past the veil fundamentalists have cast over our heavenly Father.
It's not that 'people' are offended by Jesus' message, Finn...it is the ego...
or the egoic mind...like Jesus was not offended by Peter...but rather 'satan' in him.
Do you see the difference?
I do.
When one sees that we are all one under the skin....all brothers and sisters
in the same boat...pure and good and innocent...therein lies a peace of
seeing into the heart of us all....
There is no more of this 'us and them'...animosity or one-upmanship disappears...because
of wisdom into the nature of things.
Why are so many offended by the truth? I know I used to be offended it by it because it hurt my pride, and I know many others who were offended by the Gospel. Looking at the many atheists these days, it is clear they are deeply offended by anything Christian. Why is this?
Because the “atheist” sees the hypocrisy in the Christian message that was pushed by the RCC (crusades and indulgences) and is pushed by the churches (humanity is to become Christian to save them selves from eternal hell)
Jesus came to fulfill prophecy ........not to save Christians to heaven
There is an illiteracy regarding the scriptures by Christians who say they speak for God but seem to miss the spirit by focusing on the words
The same spirits that were in the old scriptures are in the new and the scribe, prophets and priests are to test the spirits, not just follow any spirit
Why are so many offended by the truth? I know I used to be offended it by it because it hurt my pride, and I know many others who were offended by the Gospel. Looking at the many atheists these days, it is clear they are deeply offended by anything Christian. Why is this?
Far from it, they are smart enough to know the message of fundamental christianity cannot be compared to the life of Jesus Christ who IS the good news of God.
It's not that 'people' are offended by Jesus' message, Finn...it is the ego...
or the egoic mind...like Jesus was not offended by Peter...but rather 'satan' in him.
Do you see the difference?
I do.
Whose ego? Their ego, the people. Same thing.
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When one sees that we are all one under the skin....all brothers and sisters
in the same boat...pure and good and innocent...therein lies a peace of
seeing into the heart of us all....
There is no more of this 'us and them'...animosity or one-upmanship disappears...because
of wisdom into the nature of things.
It is not about "us and them". It is about why people are offended by the Gospel, and you said it is their ego, and I said earlier it their pride, so we are pretty much saying the same thing. Nicky Cruz was offended when a street pastor told him that Jesus loved him. He assaulted the preacher.
Because the “atheist” sees the hypocrisy in the Christian message that was pushed by the RCC (crusades and indulgences) and is pushed by the churches (humanity is to become Christian to save them selves from eternal hell)
Jesus came to fulfill prophecy ........not to save Christians to heaven
There is an illiteracy regarding the scriptures by Christians who say they speak for God but seem to miss the spirit by focusing on the words
The same spirits that were in the old scriptures are in the new and the scribe, prophets and priests are to test the spirits, not just follow any spirit
You are still trying to find someone to blame (Christians). That is not the issue here. The Gospel, the good news, offends people. Jesus knew that, and warned His disciples before sending them on their way, and ultimately to their deaths.
People of universalist persuasion are working hard to turn this into another opportunity to take stabs at Christians, but that was NOT what Jesus warned them about
You are still trying to find someone to blame (Christians). That is not the issue here. The Gospel, the good news, offends people. Jesus knew that, and warned His disciples before sending them on their way, and ultimately to their deaths.
So what?
Gay Pride events offend some people. The colour purple offends some people. Mismatched socks offends some people.
The bible has a lot of crap in it that offends some people.
Gay Pride events offend some people. The colour purple offends some people. Mismatched socks offends some people.
The bible has a lot of crap in it that offends some people.
Does color purple offend people to a point where they would murder someone? The apostles were murdered for spreading the Gospel. The Christians were physically assaulted at the gay pride parade.
Why are so many offended by the truth? I know I used to be offended it by it because it hurt my pride, and I know many others who were offended by the Gospel. Looking at the many atheists these days, it is clear they are deeply offended by anything Christian. Why is this?
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
You are still trying to find someone to blame (Christians). That is not the issue here. The Gospel, the good news, offends people. Jesus knew that, and warned His disciples before sending them on their way, and ultimately to their deaths.
People of universalist persuasion are working hard to turn this into another opportunity to take stabs at Christians, but that was NOT what Jesus warned them about
Jesus warned his disciples about lots of things
The scriptures are prophetic in nature and written to the people of God, which is anyone who thinks they apply to them ..... the Jews, Christians and muslims all claim to be Abraham’s children but we can see by the fighting in Israel that they are not doing righteousness
What I believe is the scriptures have been taken out of context to fit into everyone’s agenda at some time
So I am not trying to blame anyone specifically, but what I do see in Jesus words is that “we” are to judge ourselves personally and nationally
If we do not do the right thing ..... we will be judged
That is law and grace
We are not to abuse the law for our own benefit
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