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Old 06-15-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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It’s all about context Finn
Amen. The context used by our barbaric, savage, and ignorant ancestors was that of a vengeful God who needed to be appeased by a human blood sacrifice in a horrendous scourging and crucifixion to forgive the rest of us - - for what????

 
Old 06-15-2019, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Amen. The context used by our barbaric, savage, and ignorant ancestors was that of a vengeful God who needed to be appeased by a human blood sacrifice in a horrendous scourging and crucifixion to forgive the rest of us - - for what????
That is what people have a hard time seeing...yet...how much plainer could this be described?
 
Old 06-15-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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That is what people have a hard time seeing...yet...how much plainer could this be described?
How did God forgive sin? Did He just set aside justice?
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:13 PM
 
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Yes, hence your OP is correct. Liberal Christians are offended by the cross as the planned (by the Father, before time began) redemptive work of Christ.
This is an odd statement.

Not agreeing with something doesn't mean one is offended.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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Amen. The context used by our barbaric, savage, and ignorant ancestors was that of a vengeful God who needed to be appeased by a human blood sacrifice in a horrendous scourging and crucifixion to forgive the rest of us - - for what????
I think most people are blind to their own sin:

Walking past a beggar without acknowledging them.

Perhaps eating out for dinner when you could give that money to someone in need.

Going to a movie when you could visit someone in prison.

Are these things somehow not sin? And these are things that most people don't even view as being objectionable or even wrong.
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:20 PM
 
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How did God forgive sin? Did He just set aside justice?
Uh . . . He would just forgive as Jesus did to His torturers and murderers. What do YOU need to forgive someone, Jimmie?
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:21 PM
 
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Amen. The context used by our barbaric, savage, and ignorant ancestors was that of a vengeful God who needed to be appeased by a human blood sacrifice in a horrendous scourging and crucifixion to forgive the rest of us - - for what????
This is the language of an offended person. You are a prime example of what we are discussing.
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:21 PM
 
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Yep. The message of the cross offends them, so they choose to believe something else.
Nah. We just see a different message.

This struck me as such a strange way of thinking that I searched on the thread title first looking to find where exactly you are getting this, and a whole list of sites popped up that makes this claim. It seems to be an oft-repeated meme on fundamentalist sites.

I'd like L8 or one of the other former fundamentalists to explain what the purpose of this line of thought is, what it is intended to accomplish, if they see this.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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Nah. We just see a different message.

This struck me as such a strange way of thinking that I searched on the thread title first looking to find where exactly you are getting this, and a whole list of sites popped up that makes this claim. It seems to be an oft-repeated meme on fundamentalist sites.
What sites?

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I'd like L8 or one of the other former fundamentalists to explain what the purpose of this line of thought is, what it is intended to accomplish, if they see this.
It is not a "line of thought", it is a fact. People are offended by the Gospel. Why do you deny it?

What did the Apostles preach that got them killed?
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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What sites?

It is not a "line of thought", it is a fact. People are offended by the Gospel. Why do you deny it?

What did the Apostles preach that got them killed?
Why do you care?

Why should anyone who otherwise has a life?
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