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Perhaps this passage will shed more light on the subject.
Romans 8:1-4
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
"God is love." It's right in your bible, so how is it "another" God?
God is love that is right, but when you take away His holiness and His right to judge wickedness, then you make love to your God and that is not the God of the bible. Your God allows you to do everything that does not harm another person, that includes immorality, what the bible calls sin. so you have created a liberty, that is like the statue of liberty in the US, it has the name but does not come from God.
It was not with perishable things, such as silver or gold that you were redeemed (λυτρόω); but with the precious life of Christ.
There is no question that he laid down his life to set humanity free, however, nowhere does it say that God demanded it [as] a penalty for sin.
1. Peter 1:18 says with His precious blood, why you changed the blood into His life. It is the blood that is necessary for the remission of sins. That is a spiritual law, beginning with Adam and Eve, Abel, Abraham and the temple laws, which came from God, if mystic calls them barbarians, he will give his answer on judgement day. Jesus sets us free, that is right, but faith is necessary, including the precious blood, that was paid to set us free from the hostage of the kingdom of darkness, that had captured us through sin. God does not keep anyone hostage, it is the devil, you do not believe in. Your believe is not according the bible. Your arguments are worthless, no scripture at all. Only you claim to have the mind of Christ. If this would be true, then you would agree with the word of God.
God is love that is right, but when you take away His holiness and His right to judge wickedness, then you make love to your God and that is not the God of the bible. Your God allows you to do everything that does not harm another person, that includes immorality, what the bible calls sin. so you have created a liberty, that is like the statue of liberty in the US, it has the name but does not come from God.
Do you think Jesus Christ showed the holiness of God?, if so, how did it match your description of God above . You do know that the scripture says "in him dwelled the fullness of God"?, in other words all that God is.
Pleroo addressed this in her post and I explained it in mine (which you ignored so I will repeat it here). We understand the meaning of this verse . . . but I am fairly certain you do not.
Romans 8:1-4 King James Version (KJV)
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
God's law demanded a human Spirit that was perfect agape love for all life. We were not capable of achieving that (weak through the flesh). Jesus was that human Spirit because He had direct access to the Father's Holy Spirit. When He died and was reborn as Spirit (resurrected) . . . His Holy Spirit (Comforter) became part of the total human collective consciousness. In that way . . . He connected all human consciousness to God's consciousness. That is how He is the Way to God. His Holy Spirit (Comforter) is also available within each human consciousness to guide us to what God has "written in our hearts" under the New Covenant.
Unlike our ancestors before Christ . . . we all have access to Christ's Holy Spirit (Comforter) within our consciousness. As long as we follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't . . . we will have the cover of His grace and perfection for our imperfections. That is how we "walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit" (Christ's Holy Spirit). That is how we have been saved. There was no ransom demanded by God and there was no penalty to pay to God for anything. That is OT ancient ignorance and superstition.
Where in the bible it says that Jesus is reborn as Spirit. My bible says that His human body is resurrected. He Himself said that He is not a Spirit, but has bone and flesh.
The next claim, that His Spirit became part of the total human collective consciousness is also not in the bible. God gives His Holy Spirit to them, that obey Him. You have to be born again to receive His Holy Spirit. God is Holy, what you do not know, without the washing of the blood of Jesus the Holy Spirit does not come into a human, this happens through faith in Christ finished work at the cross. You are not saved by trying to walk in love (Agape), that is a gift from God, you will not get by your own efforts. If you are honest, you will admit that you are not different from a Humanist (unbeliever). The OT is God´s word, Jesus gave it authority by saying it is written. You have no right to come against God`s word, He is the same yesterday, today and for ever.
God is love that is right, but when you take away His holiness and His right to judge wickedness, then you make love to your God and that is not the God of the bible. Your God allows you to do everything that does not harm another person, that includes immorality, what the bible calls sin. so you have created a liberty, that is like the statue of liberty in the US, it has the name but does not come from God.
Jesus also said "ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father who is in the heavens is perfect". I have no doubt Jesus Christ was exactly this. Did you see Jesus Christ perfect in the same way as his Father judging the wicked in your bible ?. It is your god that is doing the harming. Jesus judged righteously by the word of God and his word is spirit and life, in other words he saw something and corrected it for the better by speaking life to it.
Do you think Jesus Christ showed the holiness of God?, if so, how did it match your description of God above . You do know that the scripture says "in him dwelled the fullness of God"?, in other words all that God is.
Jesus holiness was that He kept the whole law of God. You reduce the law to love God and your neighbor. You say what does not harm someone is no sin. Did you change the holiness of God? Do you really think God dwells in a wicked "Christian"? Your whole believe system is corrupt.
Jesus holiness was that He kept the whole law of God. You reduce the law to love God and your neighbor. You say what does not harm someone is no sin. Did you change the holiness of God? Do you really think God dwells in a wicked "Christian"? Your whole believe system is corrupt.
Jesus is the holiness of God made manifest, and it he did not manifest your description of God. No I never said what does not harm someone is not sin, although there is more truth in that than condemning sinners because you believe God is holy. Scripture says ....... To him therefore that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to HIM it is sin. Do you believe Jesus Christ looked upon the world in judgement and condemnation or in love because he is holy "Christian"?. To belittle or put love down in any shape or form, comes from a system that is corrupt. Paul said there is no height, depth, length and breadth to it, he also calked it the greatest........ What do ya say to that ?.
Jesus also said "ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father who is in the heavens is perfect". I have no doubt Jesus Christ was exactly this. Did you see Jesus Christ perfect in the same way as his Father judging the wicked in your bible ?. It is your god that is doing the harming. Jesus judged righteously by the word of God and his word is spirit and life, in other words he saw something and corrected it for the better by speaking life to it.
Do you have another bible? Do you believe the word of God OT and NT? Jesus Christ is called "The word of God". God is the Savior, there is no difference between the Father and the Son, the ones do harm to themselves that do not believe in Christ and His word the bible. He also said, sin no more, otherwise it will be worse.
Jesus is the holiness of God made manifest, and it he did not manifest your description of God. No I never said what does not harm someone is not sin, although there is more truth in that than condemning sinners because you believe God is holy. Scripture says ....... To him therefore that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to HIM it is sin. Do you believe Jesus Christ looked upon the world in judgement and condemnation or in love because he is holy "Christian"?. To belittle or put love down in any shape or form, comes from a system that is corrupt. Paul said there is no height, depth, length and breadth to it, he also calked it the greatest........ What do ya say to that ?.
Do you know what God`s love includes? He keeps Heaven pure, because He is Holy. the harvest is Jesus collects a bride that is without spot and wrinkle. My God and I do the same, not to condemn anyone. I come here against falsehood, that is contrary to the bible. I know your problem and I pray for you. God bless!
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"God is love." It's right in your bible, so how is it "another" God?
