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Old 11-18-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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The answer is not that we are LAWLESS, the answer is because we, in Christ have the HELPER the Holy Spirit to guide us into all truth. Those under the old covenant did not have the Spirit of LIFE.
Speaking of the Spirit of LIFE of our ADOPTION as children of God we need to understand that when God said
Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
KJV

This does not mean that we can only die if we loose our blood, for a man can die in his sleep never loosing a drop. So, this life in our blood is THE SPIRIT OF A MAN. The reason that Jesus could not have a natural father in Joseph is because it is the seed of the man that the blood source comes from NOT THE MOTHER. Her blood never enters the child it is a proven fact and I will give you an article to read after I post this.
That is why in the past God allowed men to have many wives, yet the woman is a harlot if she has many lovers and births children of their bloodline(of their spirit) and that is why a man is of BAD BLOOD OR GOOD STOCK so to speak, it is talking about BLOODLINE which is not according to our genes but our spirit that resides in our blood.
It is not your name JOHN OR MARY SMITH that is written down in the book of life, it is your DNA. That is why it was so important to protect the BONES of the patriarchs for the marrow in them stores our DNA.

So when you see these History channels going about trying to say that Jesus had natural children with Mary Magdalene or some preposterous thing, know that God does not birth natural children but through His Spirit are His children. Nor are the devils children literal births as in having natural children with women for angels do not have genitals for they do not marry in the natural sense producing tall giant people, for if they did... where are they? For most of the world is a child of the devil. Giant means LARGER THAN LIFE BULLIES, those who can BUY their way out of court with their MONEY, Giants of the industry that hoard all the FACTORIES that put man out of business so they have to resort to beg borrow or steal to feed their families and the list goes on..
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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I am quoting from an article I have read:

“It is now definitely known that the blood which flows in an unborn babe's arteries and veins is not derived from the mother, but is produced within the body of the fetus. Yet it is only after the sperm has entered the ovum and the fetus begins to develop, that blood appears.

It is unnecessary that a single drop of blood be given to the developing embryo in the womb of the mother. Such is the case according to scientists. The mother provides the fetus with the nutritive elements for the building of that little body in the secret of her womb, but all the blood which forms in it, is formed in the embryo itself. The mother contributes no blood at all!

This is quoted from the Howell's Textbook of Physiology: "For the purpose of understanding its general functions it is sufficient to recall that the placenta consists essentially of vascular chorionic papillae from the fetus bathed in the large blood spaces of the decidual membrane of the mother. The fetal and maternal blood do not come in actual contact. They are separated from each other by the walls of the fetal blood vessels and the epithelial layers of the chorionic villus."

The Holy Spirit was the life that flowed through the sinless blood of Jesus, and you can never separate the spirit from the blood, they work together. When did the outpouring of the Holy Spirit occur? It was not until after the blood of Jesus had been poured out at Calvary.

Additional facts from medical science they wrote:

Author Louise Zabriskie and RN wrote in a Nurses Handbook Of Obstetrics, "When the circulation of the blood begins in the embryo, it remains separate and distinct from that of the mother. All food and waste material which are interchanged between the embryo and the mother must pass through the blood vessel's walls from one circulation to the other.

The fetus receives its nourishment and oxygen from the mother's blood into its own through the medium of the placenta. The fetal heart pumps blood through the arteries of the umbilical cord into the placental vessels, which, looping in and out of the uterine tissue and lying in close contact with the uterine vessels, permit a diffusion, through their walls, of waste products from child to mother and nourishment and oxygen from the mother to child. As has been said, this interchange is effected the process of osmosis, and there is no direct mingling of the two blood currents. In other words no maternal blood actually flows to the fetus, nor is there and direct fetal blood flow to the mother." End of article.

While Mary’s natural womb was used for Jesus’ flesh birth, it is the Holy Spirit who planted the Word, the Seed into Mary’s womb. Jesus is the “Word of life” that became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus was the Seed of God that came through the natural woman Mary, yet his flesh man died on the cross. Then the Word was resurrected on the 3rd day. Those who have joined themselves to Christ, are part of his spiritual body(believers) left on this earth, and will have the Seed of the Word growing in their hearts to become the children of God. Spiritual heavenly Jerusalem the city is the bride/wife of the Lamb and our mother.

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us KJV

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. KJV

The Father creates all things through and by His Word, who is our Lord Jesus Christ!
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. KJV
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Old 11-18-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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I am quoting from an article I have read:

“It is now definitely known that the blood which flows in an unborn babe's arteries and veins is not derived from the mother, but is produced within the body of the fetus. Yet it is only after the sperm has entered the ovum and the fetus begins to develop, that blood appears.

It is unnecessary that a single drop of blood be given to the developing embryo in the womb of the mother. Such is the case according to scientists. The mother provides the fetus with the nutritive elements for the building of that little body in the secret of her womb, but all the blood which forms in it, is formed in the embryo itself. The mother contributes no blood at all!

This is quoted from the Howell's Textbook of Physiology: "For the purpose of understanding its general functions it is sufficient to recall that the placenta consists essentially of vascular chorionic papillae from the fetus bathed in the large blood spaces of the decidual membrane of the mother. The fetal and maternal blood do not come in actual contact. They are separated from each other by the walls of the fetal blood vessels and the epithelial layers of the chorionic villus."

The Holy Spirit was the life that flowed through the sinless blood of Jesus, and you can never separate the spirit from the blood, they work together. When did the outpouring of the Holy Spirit occur? It was not until after the blood of Jesus had been poured out at Calvary.

Additional facts from medical science they wrote:

Author Louise Zabriskie and RN wrote in a Nurses Handbook Of Obstetrics, "When the circulation of the blood begins in the embryo, it remains separate and distinct from that of the mother. All food and waste material which are interchanged between the embryo and the mother must pass through the blood vessel's walls from one circulation to the other.

The fetus receives its nourishment and oxygen from the mother's blood into its own through the medium of the placenta. The fetal heart pumps blood through the arteries of the umbilical cord into the placental vessels, which, looping in and out of the uterine tissue and lying in close contact with the uterine vessels, permit a diffusion, through their walls, of waste products from child to mother and nourishment and oxygen from the mother to child. As has been said, this interchange is effected the process of osmosis, and there is no direct mingling of the two blood currents. In other words no maternal blood actually flows to the fetus, nor is there and direct fetal blood flow to the mother." End of article.

While Mary’s natural womb was used for Jesus’ flesh birth, it is the Holy Spirit who planted the Word, the Seed into Mary’s womb. Jesus is the “Word of life” that became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus was the Seed of God that came through the natural woman Mary, yet his flesh man died on the cross. Then the Word was resurrected on the 3rd day. Those who have joined themselves to Christ, are part of his spiritual body(believers) left on this earth, and will have the Seed of the Word growing in their hearts to become the children of God. Spiritual heavenly Jerusalem the city is the bride/wife of the Lamb and our mother.

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us KJV

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. KJV

The Father creates all things through and by His Word, who is our Lord Jesus Christ!
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. KJV
Most of this was purported by Dr. M.R. DeHaan in 1943 (70 years ago) and is MISAPPLIED SCIENCE. Here is one of many articles written that disprove his assertions. The second article explains it.
AN EXAMINATION OF THE CHEMISTRY OF THE BLOOD

Blood and Fetal Development

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