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Old 12-13-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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I've read and heard on Christian talk radio all sorts of negative comments about mega-churches. Everything from not meeting needs to being New Age to being Satanic. Some of this comes from pastors. Are they simply jealous? Passing judgment? Or, are they issuing legitimate warnings?
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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I've read and heard on Christian talk radio all sorts of negative comments about mega-churches. Everything from not meeting needs to being New Age to being Satanic. Some of this comes from pastors. Are they simply jealous? Passing judgment? Or, are they issuing legitimate warnings?
On a basic level, the pastor is only able to reasonably know a certain number of people. Once the church grows above a certain level, the pastor ceases to be a shepherd and is more of just a preacher to most of the congregation. The Bible tells pastors to feed the sheep--and to care for them.

Having said that, I have been part of a megachurch where 3000 people attended weekly. The preaching was very good, very sound and Biblical. I only met the senior pastor a few times, but my wife and I were very close to an associate pastor. For all intents, he was our pastor. He knew our kids' names, and the things we had going on in our lives. Such a thing is not necessarily bad.

On the other hand, there are a lot of megachurches in America where the focus is on simply putting butts in the seats each week. Many of these churches have pastors that are under a lot of pressure from their church boards to continue to grow the church. As a result, I think the focus moves from God to entertaining people. That, I think, is a bad thing.
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Old 12-13-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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I've read and heard on Christian talk radio all sorts of negative comments about mega-churches. Everything from not meeting needs to being New Age to being Satanic. Some of this comes from pastors. Are they simply jealous? Passing judgment? Or, are they issuing legitimate warnings?
Not sure what you are calling "Christian talk radio" so cannot comment on what they have said. You can find someone to say negative things about anything and anybody.

The first church established had thousands of members. So I don't think the numbers really has anything to do with it. You would need to be specific about a church and the concern with that one church to discuss this responsibly. You cannot broad brush all large churches and be honest. I know there has at times been much made of a church on the West coast. Sometimes very specific and I think legitimate concerns and at other times vague and general things that may or may not have been a real issue. Did you any specific churches that were discussed that you would like to talk about?
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Well, I know people who attend them and find fulfillment in them. I am not one of those people. Several reasons:

1) They typically succumb to the Entertainment Disease. Of all the people I know who attend, they all seem to go for the music and the wonderful preaching. And then they go home. Even worse are the ones who file into a remote location to essentially watch a television program. What?

2) The pastors really have little true contact with the rank-and-file of their congregations.

3) The services are loud and lack intimacy.

4) All power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The two big megachurches in my area have pastors living in multimillion-dollar homes in gated communities, drive Mercedes, and take their children on lavish vacations. While I certainly do not believe a clergyman should live in a tarpaper shack, they shouldn't be rich either.

5) No real theology, just whatever the preacher happens to think that moment.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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There is nothing inherently 'good or bad' about a mega-church of thousands; ... OR a small, single-room church and congregation of ten people.

The problem, particularly in larger churches, seems to be a tendency to lose sight of 'Worshipping Christ for who He is and what He has done'; ... TO a focus on programs, activities and entertainment; --- OR on 'What we are doing and how we look doing it" --

Nevertheless, there will be no 'heavenly determination' of whether one church or denomination is better than another. The reality is that WE (believers in Christ, not the bricks and pews) are actually the CHURCH --- and WE, not our buildings, are individually accountable to our God!
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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.Are they simply jealous? Passing judgment?
I think so. One thing I admire about those fleecing the flock, is you rarely see them criticizing the brethren, not that I ever listen to those guys anymore, but no I cannot recall them being critical or judgmental or trying to put folk right about sin and the bible, they teach what they believe and it was take or leave it, but if you believe it,for a donation of $20 you will get 10 things to do to change your life DVD absolutely free.

I wish would all woke up to how Mega the God within us is, now wouldn't that be amazing. Then no longer will the teach our neighbor, or say to each another, 'Know the Lord,' because we will all know him from the least of us to the greatest.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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I think so. One thing I admire about those fleecing the flock, is you rarely see them criticizing the brethren, not that I ever listen to those guys anymore, but no I cannot recall them being critical or judgmental or trying to put folk right about sin and the bible, they teach what they believe and it was take or leave it, but if you believe it,for a donation of $20 you will get 10 things to do to change your life DVD absolutely free.

I wish would all woke up to how Mega the God within us is, now wouldn't that be amazing. Then no longer will the teach our neighbor, or say to each another, 'Know the Lord,' because we will all know him from the least of us to the greatest.
You've never listened to Perry Noble or Steven Furtick?
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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You've never listened to Perry Noble or Steven Furtick?
Never heard of them. Who are they ?.
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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Never heard of them. Who are they ?.
They're mega-church pastors that have both publicly denounced their congregants for wanting deeper teaching. Furtick also made a video where he called anyone that criticized him a "hater".
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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They're mega-church pastors that have both publicly denounced their congregants for wanting deeper teaching. Furtick also made a video where he called anyone that criticized him a "hater".
Deeper teaching?, now that could mean 2 things. I've witnessed what one version of it does to folk, not as severe as what happened to the kid of the high profile Christian on the other thread, but damaging none the less. Then there's the deeper meaningful teachings of Jesus which are founded upon loving your neighbor as yourself, knowing you are loved and accepted of God, so that you can love yourself and love other as yourself.
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