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Old 02-14-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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1. What is your alternative to the Trinity?
2. What are the 7 spirits of God?
The Holy Spirit has seven main categories of ministry though He be One and each has a proper name because He a person.

The Spirit of the Lord contains within Himself the Seven Spirits [ministries/gifts/workings] of God. Therefore the list in Isaiah is not the seven because the first in the list of Isaiah is the Spirit of the Lord [all seven within the first which is the Spirit of the Lord] and only six follow in the list.

It works like this: Creation is the visible display of Gods spiritual nature. Jesus said in JN 3:12, "If I have told you earthly things, and you do not believe, how shall you believe, if I tell you of Heavenly things?" Because spiritual truth is parallel to the natural truths. Jesus said " I am the Light of the world." Natural light can be broken down into the seven colors of the rainbow.
A rainbow is over the throne of God and it is written of in Revelation, 4. The seven colors of the rainbow are as follows and their corresponding meanings:

No.1 and 2: The first two Spirits of God are mentioned in, ZECH 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of Grace and of Supplications:"


No. 1 is red: the Spirit of Grace [Atonement by blood]. Grace can be described in many ways such as unmerited favor or His ability freely given for us to became like Christ. Grace is given to us because because of the Atonement for sins. It is the crown of the rainbow and overshadows all of Gods' work.

No 2 is orange: the Spirit of Supplication and given to consume inordinate fleshly desires [born again/baptized of the fire of God as John the Baptist said, MT 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but He that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"
It in turn is symbolized by the hot fire [bright orange] under the Old Testament alter of sacrifices and so the Spirit of Supplication prepares us as sacrifices from an old life unto the New Life.

No. 3 is yellow and symbolizes the Spirit of Truth: JN 16:13 "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, he will guide you into all Truth:"
Yellow like pure gold because theSpirit of Truth is the mind of Christ such as wisdom, council, understanding and knowledge which are eternal.
All comes by the Spirit not the law because Grace and Supplication has prepared you to "hear".

No. 4 is green and symbolizes the Spirit of Holiness. ROM 1:4 "And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of Holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:" The resurrection proves He is Holy and Righteous.
Green as when the earth resurrects from the death of winter. TheSpirit of Holiness is also symbolized by the color of the Throne of God in Revelation 4 which in color is like an emerald and also the stone that represents the tribe Judah on the O.T. High Priests' breastplate of judgment. EX 28:18 "And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond. The emerald came after the first three stones in row one. The forth son of Jacob was Judah according to Genesis chapter 29!
EX 28:15 "And you shall make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod you shall make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shall you make it." So you see all these colors and others mean spiritual things.
All green things in the spring time speak of the resurrection and of His Holiness and that the Fruit of the Spirit is on the way as it is in nature. Holiness must first be established before the Fruit can appear.
REV 22:2 "And the leaves of the Tree [of Life] were for the healing of the nations." Why? Because green leaves put out pure oxygen and therefore represent the pure spiritual "air" of Heaven which is Holiness.

No 5 is sky blue and represents the Spirit of Life [Fruit of the Spirit].
ROM 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death." Love sets us free hate and the fear of man, joy sets us free from sorrow and depression, peace sets us free from turmoil of mind and etc.
The Priest of the O.T. wore a robe of all blue. Jesus is the High Priest over the whole earth to give the beauties of Heavenly places to all "see" if we ask.

No. 6 is indigo or dark blue and represents the Spirit of Adoption. ROM 8:15 "For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of Adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
Indigo has lots of blue with red mixed in it. We are adopted into the Life of Christ as a on/daughter like as He by Is blood Atonement.

No. 7 is purple [violet as it is called today] and it represents the Spirit of Glory which means the Beauty of His Character. 1PET 4:14 "If you be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are you; for the Spirit of Glory and of God rests upon you: on their part He is evil spoken of, but on your part he is Glorified."
A purple cloth was put over the ash pan after the sacrifices where made on the alter of sacrifices in the O.T. to symbolize that all has been done to bring forth character/righteousness. It is the culmination of the other six and what Gods desires for mankind.
Purple is red and blue mixed in a most beautiful combination and they represent in combination the blood of His suffering and the beauty of His Life and they sum up to, THE BEAUTY OF HIS CHARACTER, the finished work of His Glory. Christ showed Character, in spite of His sufferings. Character is what God has for all who believe.

Some will say, Where do you find this in the Bible? It is there but hidden and can only be revealed by the Spirit. It is some of the "hidden manner" of God. Truth/Manna feeds the soul. There are lot of things said in the Bible but not explained. But God is in the business of opening up the "unsearchable riches of Christ" to those who diligently seek.
REV 2:17 "He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit say to the churches; To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knows saving he that receives it."
MT 13:52 "Then said He to them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a man that is a householder, which brings forth out of his treasure things new and old."
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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the seven spirits come in three pairs and 1 single.
The three pairs correspond to the Father Son and Holy Spirit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-...Type_Indicator

the seven spirits correspond to the seven branches of the Olive Branch (or palm branch) held by the angel and the 4th pair (numbers 8&9) correspond to the wings of the angel
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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The Holy Spirit has seven main categories of ministry though He be One and each has a proper name because He a person.

The Spirit of the Lord contains within Himself the Seven Spirits [ministries/gifts/workings] of God. Therefore the list in Isaiah is not the seven because the first in the list of Isaiah is the Spirit of the Lord [all seven within the first which is the Spirit of the Lord] and only six follow in the list.

It works like this: Creation is the visible display of Gods spiritual nature. Jesus said in JN 3:12, "If I have told you earthly things, and you do not believe, how shall you believe, if I tell you of Heavenly things?" Because spiritual truth is parallel to the natural truths. Jesus said " I am the Light of the world." Natural light can be broken down into the seven colors of the rainbow.
A rainbow is over the throne of God and it is written of in Revelation, 4. The seven colors of the rainbow are as follows and their corresponding meanings:

No.1 and 2: The first two Spirits of God are mentioned in, ZECH 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of Grace and of Supplications:"


No. 1 is red: the Spirit of Grace [Atonement by blood]. Grace can be described in many ways such as unmerited favor or His ability freely given for us to became like Christ. Grace is given to us because because of the Atonement for sins. It is the crown of the rainbow and overshadows all of Gods' work.

No 2 is orange: the Spirit of Supplication and given to consume inordinate fleshly desires [born again/baptized of the fire of God as John the Baptist said, MT 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but He that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"
It in turn is symbolized by the hot fire [bright orange] under the Old Testament alter of sacrifices and so the Spirit of Supplication prepares us as sacrifices from an old life unto the New Life.

No. 3 is yellow and symbolizes the Spirit of Truth: JN 16:13 "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, he will guide you into all Truth:"
Yellow like pure gold because theSpirit of Truth is the mind of Christ such as wisdom, council, understanding and knowledge which are eternal.
All comes by the Spirit not the law because Grace and Supplication has prepared you to "hear".

No. 4 is green and symbolizes the Spirit of Holiness. ROM 1:4 "And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of Holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:" The resurrection proves He is Holy and Righteous.
Green as when the earth resurrects from the death of winter. TheSpirit of Holiness is also symbolized by the color of the Throne of God in Revelation 4 which in color is like an emerald and also the stone that represents the tribe Judah on the O.T. High Priests' breastplate of judgment. EX 28:18 "And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond. The emerald came after the first three stones in row one. The forth son of Jacob was Judah according to Genesis chapter 29!
EX 28:15 "And you shall make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod you shall make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shall you make it." So you see all these colors and others mean spiritual things.
All green things in the spring time speak of the resurrection and of His Holiness and that the Fruit of the Spirit is on the way as it is in nature. Holiness must first be established before the Fruit can appear.
REV 22:2 "And the leaves of the Tree [of Life] were for the healing of the nations." Why? Because green leaves put out pure oxygen and therefore represent the pure spiritual "air" of Heaven which is Holiness.

No 5 is sky blue and represents the Spirit of Life [Fruit of the Spirit].
ROM 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death." Love sets us free hate and the fear of man, joy sets us free from sorrow and depression, peace sets us free from turmoil of mind and etc.
The Priest of the O.T. wore a robe of all blue. Jesus is the High Priest over the whole earth to give the beauties of Heavenly places to all "see" if we ask.

No. 6 is indigo or dark blue and represents the Spirit of Adoption. ROM 8:15 "For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of Adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
Indigo has lots of blue with red mixed in it. We are adopted into the Life of Christ as a on/daughter like as He by Is blood Atonement.

No. 7 is purple [violet as it is called today] and it represents the Spirit of Glory which means the Beauty of His Character. 1PET 4:14 "If you be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are you; for the Spirit of Glory and of God rests upon you: on their part He is evil spoken of, but on your part he is Glorified."
A purple cloth was put over the ash pan after the sacrifices where made on the alter of sacrifices in the O.T. to symbolize that all has been done to bring forth character/righteousness. It is the culmination of the other six and what Gods desires for mankind.
Purple is red and blue mixed in a most beautiful combination and they represent in combination the blood of His suffering and the beauty of His Life and they sum up to, THE BEAUTY OF HIS CHARACTER, the finished work of His Glory. Christ showed Character, in spite of His sufferings. Character is what God has for all who believe.

Some will say, Where do you find this in the Bible? It is there but hidden and can only be revealed by the Spirit. It is some of the "hidden manner" of God. Truth/Manna feeds the soul. There are lot of things said in the Bible but not explained. But God is in the business of opening up the "unsearchable riches of Christ" to those who diligently seek.
REV 2:17 "He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit say to the churches; To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knows saving he that receives it."
MT 13:52 "Then said He to them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a man that is a householder, which brings forth out of his treasure things new and old."
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the seven spirits come in three pairs and 1 single.
The three pairs correspond to the Father Son and Holy Spirit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-...Type_Indicator

the seven spirits correspond to the seven branches of the Olive Branch (or palm branch) held by the angel and the 4th pair (numbers 8&9) correspond to the wings of the angel
Interesting. I thought since Heartsong said The Seven Spirits Of God, Heartsong was referring to the seven spirits of God illustrated throughout Revelation.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:45 PM
 
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Interesting. I thought since Heartsong said The Seven Spirits Of God, Heartsong was referring to the seven spirits of God illustrated throughout Revelation.
She was and I too am referring to the seven Spirits of God mentioned much in Revelation by several symbols.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:14 PM
 
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Thanks again for seeing my true intentions.
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They were very clear to me. Be well, be blessed. Don't let those who would throw rocks and cast stones stop you from posting!
I agree completely, Dew. JB has a beautiful Spirit and sincere and loving intentions. It is obvious to anyone who is not driven by an agenda.
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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the seven spirits come in three pairs and 1 single.
The three pairs correspond to the Father Son and Holy Spirit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-...Type_Indicator

the seven spirits correspond to the seven branches of the Olive Branch (or palm branch) held by the angel and the 4th pair (numbers 8&9) correspond to the wings of the angel
what I meant to say is that the three pairs correspond to the three baptisms
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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You've started what? 3 different threads on the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the Trinity. He is a person. He is not simply God's spirit. He is an actual person.

Once again...here is a link to my post listing the verses supporting this.

//www.city-data.com/forum/33129673-post5.html
What do you mean it is not HaShem's SPIRIT?...He states in Scripturr that it is HIS Spirit...
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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The title 'Holy Spirit' is just one of many titles which belong to the third Person of the Trinity. All three Persons of the Trinity are Holy and all three are Spirit. While in His humanity Jesus has a body, as God He is Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father as shown by the fact that the Father knows the mind of the Spirit.
Romans 8:26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27] and He (The Father) who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
The Holy Spirit has His own mind which the Father knows.
Wait a minute...WHO intercedes on behalf of the Saints???...
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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This is the most arrogant, condescending post I've read on this forum yet.


I've invested years earning a Master of Divinity Degree.
Just curious as to why that really means anything?
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Thank you. I really did NOT mean it the way he took it. When I replied back to him I did not get a chance to say everything I wanted because I was so flustered. They are normal people who are not educated in the oneness doctrine, or even the bible for that matter. So whatever I said either didn't come out right or was misinterpreted. Either way, I'm sorry it happened.

Thanks again for seeing my true intentions. I am one of those people that can't comprehend certain things very well. Especially instructions. You can't tell me how to do something, my mind doesn't comprehend. You have to show me. I can relate to this family SO WELL!!!
Don'y worry about it, you are in good company when someone touts education.

BBE Acts 4:13 Now when they saw that Peter and John were without fear, though they were men of no education or learning, they were greatly surprised; and they took note of them that they had been with Jesus.

ASV 1 Corinthians 1:27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;
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