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03-06-2014, 01:58 PM
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If the bible is the word of god, how does a bible believer justify the idea of owning slaves and defining the appropriate punishment if your slave is a little bad, versus very bad.
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03-06-2014, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinking-man
If the bible is the word of god, how does a bible believer justify the idea of owning slaves and defining the appropriate punishment if your slave is a little bad, versus very bad.
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Can you give a Scripture reference? |
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03-06-2014, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Can you give a Scripture reference?
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Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.
Exodus 21:20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money. |
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03-06-2014, 02:13 PM
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Is slavery legal in today's society ?
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03-06-2014, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Atkutuq
Is slavery legal in today's society ?
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Are you saying that slavery is wrong only in today's society? |
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03-06-2014, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinking-man
Are you saying that slavery is wrong only in today's society?
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No. I asked you a simple question. Is it legal today? |
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03-06-2014, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Atkutuq
No. I asked you a simple question. Is it legal today?
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No, because it is immoral to do so, and people/countries/governments (through further education, thinking, and Logic) figured out that regardless of what the holy book(s) tell them, slavery (and other things) are wrong. That of course doesn't stop some to enslave 15-20 Million individuals to date....some of whom are enslaved because it's written in the bible that it's ok to do so.
The bigger question is however, if the bible is the word of god as many believe, why should slavery be illegal? |
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03-06-2014, 02:49 PM
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Your quote is from the Old Testament. The Old Testament laws and rules don't apply anymore. Those laws were for the Jewish nation of Israel. That nation ended in 586BC. New Testament is the primary book by which Christians live their lives and worship God.
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03-06-2014, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by augiedogie
Your quote is from the Old Testament. The Old Testament laws and rules don't apply anymore. Those laws were for the Jewish nation of Israel. That nation ended in 586BC. New Testament is the primary book by which Christians live their lives and worship God.
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so, the old testament isn't 'the word of god'?  |
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03-06-2014, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinking-man
Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.
Exodus 21:20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.
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The laws were given to Jews, not Christians. |
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