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Old 09-11-2020, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Anyone think this increase in suicide among younger people has anything to do with the decline of Christianity throughout the US? Everyone needs a moral compass, and our children our slowly getting one from a fallen world. It's sad what is happening.

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Old 09-11-2020, 07:22 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Anyone think this increase in suicide among younger people has anything to do with the decline of Christianity throughout the US? Everyone needs a moral compass, and our children our slowly getting one from a fallen world. It's sad what is happening.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb...e-been-soaring
Suicide has little to do with the decline of the glorious message of Christianity, but reflects a deep need in every life that can only me met in Him.

https://www.who.int/mental_health/pr...ideprevent/en/
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Anyone think this increase in suicide among younger people has anything to do with the decline of Christianity throughout the US? Everyone needs a moral compass, and our children our slowly getting one from a fallen world. It's sad what is happening.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb...e-been-soaring



We are increasing Snow, but you are very correct Christians do not commit suicide. This pandemic era has resulted in more suicides, and divorces. I would say that has contributed greatly.


It would be so nice if people would seek God in their lives, as coming to know Him, definitely brings calm and peace to one's life. Serving Him gives us purpose, and a real hope.
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Old 09-11-2020, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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We are increasing Snow, but you are very correct Christians do not commit suicide. This pandemic era has resulted in more suicides, and divorces. I would say that has contributed greatly.


It would be so nice if people would seek God in their lives, as coming to know Him, definitely brings calm and peace to one's life. Serving Him gives us purpose, and a real hope.
The bold is an incredibly idiotic and incorrect statement.

Then again...consider the source...
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Old 09-11-2020, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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We are increasing Snow, but you are very correct Christians do not commit suicide. This pandemic era has resulted in more suicides, and divorces. I would say that has contributed greatly.


It would be so nice if people would seek God in their lives, as coming to know Him, definitely brings calm and peace to one's life. Serving Him gives us purpose, and a real hope.
It just makes me sad to see kids turning to death as the only way out of a situation. If they just knew that we have a God who loves them, no matter what, their outcome may have been different. We just need to keep spreading the Good News and bring as many people to Christ as possible.
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Old 09-11-2020, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I think it likely that religion has caused more suicides than it's prevented.
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Old 09-11-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: TEXAS
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I think it has more to do with an increasingly secular education system that has devolved away from a 'classical development of creative thinking minds' to just 'meeting modern metrics' , coupled with a society focused on just 'being entertained' : very few have any imagination any more and many are severely lacking on empathetic social skills - and with tech people are more connected than ever before yet are more lonely/alone than ever before, addicted to the adrenalin rush of a fast-paced life of instant gratification. .
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Old 09-11-2020, 09:42 AM
 
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Even if suicide is on the increase - and that warrants checking out in the first place, and also if mostly in the young or actually widespread in ages - that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Christianity or any other spiritual or religious matter.

Just take a look around at the decline in civility and intelligence as spewed from the top of the ladder in the US. That would be enough for people to start looking for sharp objects. Then add on top COVID, and it's economic impacts, and fears (real or imaginary). It's easy to see the cumulative negative impact on all of that alone.

Lastly, there's no "decline in Christianity". There's a decline in the organized church and organized religion, but the original teaches of Jesus are untouched, because nothing he did or said has been impacted. People and groups will always screw up and making things worse for us all, but the blame is on them. The same could be said of government. Whatever folks in that group do these days does not invalidate or change the original ideas and concepts from many generations ago. Keep the factors separated.

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Old 09-11-2020, 09:42 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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We are increasing Snow, but you are very correct Christians do not commit suicide. This pandemic era has resulted in more suicides, and divorces. I would say that has contributed greatly.


It would be so nice if people would seek God in their lives, as coming to know Him, definitely brings calm and peace to one's life. Serving Him gives us purpose, and a real hope.
Christians absolutely do commit suicide.

Why do Christians commit suicide?

https://drgrantmullen.com/moods/why-...ommit-suicide/
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Old 09-11-2020, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Even if suicide is on the increase - and that warrants checking out in the first place, and also if mostly in the young or actually widespread in ages - that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Christianity or any other spiritual or religious matter.

Just take a look around at the decline in civility and intelligence as spewed from the top of the ladder in the US. That would be enough for people to start looking for sharp objects. Then add on top COVID, and it's economic impacts, and fears (real or imaginary). It's easy to see the cumulative negative impact on all of that alone.

Lastly, there's no "decline in Christianity". There's a decline in the organized church and organized religion, but the original teaches of Jesus are untouched, because nothing he did or said has been impacted. People and groups will always screw up and making things worse for us all, but the blame is on them. The same could be said of government. Whatever folks in that group do these days does not invalidate or change the original ideas and concepts from many generations ago. Keep the factors separated. We aren't to be held responsible for crimes centuries ago, and likewise, persons centuries ago are not to be held responsible for modern acts and distortions.
1st Bold: It was a hypothesis by me. Never did I say it was fact. It was an observation and correlation I made.

2nd Bold: This is really ignorant. Moderator cut: Reference to a politician removed.

3rd Bold: Yes, there is a decline in Christianity. More and more people identify with atheism and agnosticism. As more people leave the church, they also leave their belief in Jesus. There is a very direct correlation with people leaving organized religion and leaving their beliefs behind as well.

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