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Old 07-02-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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Not even close. He was his biological father. plain as day in the scriptures.

the Immaculate Conception is a gross lie that's been told for eons. just not true.
Really? I challenge you to prove your claim!
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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Joseph was but a step-father to Jesus.
Amen to that.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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Really? I challenge you to prove your claim!
I already did.

Matthew 1:16

read all of Matthew if you need to. to better understand. Yeshua's earthly father was indeed Joseph.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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yes, study for years and years under the masters of the Law, er Bibical interpretation, and then become like the pharisees believing you are to be admired and looked to for guidance, inspiration, and the way to God.

"you" was used generically, not to anyone in particular.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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I already did.

Matthew 1:16

read all of Matthew if you need to. to better understand. Yeshua's earthly father was indeed Joseph.
just because one is born, don't mean they begotten them. so your assessment is in error. that flesh was begotten by ?God himself. read John 1:14, and that eliminates Joseph, now try again
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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I already did.

Matthew 1:16

read all of Matthew if you need to. to better understand. Yeshua's earthly father was indeed Joseph.
12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
14 Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,
15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

Now the one thing that verse 16 does not say is that Joseph is the father of Jesus. Read it and see.

Got anything else?
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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and also understand this, Mary was not Jesus biological Mother either, (smile). boy Oh boy "Foster Parents should stand up and sing right about now.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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and also understand this, Mary was not Jesus biological Mother either, (smile). boy Oh boy "Foster Parents should stand up and sing right about now.
May I ask what you mean by "biological Mother"? Since Mary gave birth to Jesus I would be interested in your idea of how this could be.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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and also understand this, Mary was not Jesus biological Mother either, (smile). boy Oh boy "Foster Parents should stand up and sing right about now.
"and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah." Matthew 1:16


Can't twist scripture to fit your own ideals.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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May I ask what you mean by "biological Mother"? Since Mary gave birth to Jesus I would be interested in your idea of how this could be.
sure, Mary nor Joseph had anything to do with JESUS Biologically, Mary only gave birth, to the flesh. no earthly blood, no earthly sperm, no earthly nothing was used in the conception, supportive scripture, see (Heb 10:5). Mary only carried that flesh for nine month, and that was all she did, she was the surrogate mother, and not the biological mother.
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