Evolution a religion? (atheists, faith, Christian, science)
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The question is not about what You or I believe but what the Federal Courts have said.
The federal courts were talking about atheism. As Mystic noted - but bears repeating - atheism and evolution are hardly synonymous.
A lot of Christians, indeed most of them, accept evolution as fact. As do atheists, Wiccans, agnostics, pagans and the vast majority of people on the planet who have at least a high school education.
The federal courts were talking about atheism. As Mystic noted - but bears repeating - atheism and evolution are hardly synonymous.
Lets try again.
The quote:
In 2005, the Supreme Court reiterated its view that religion should not be defined narrowly,7 and the Seventh Circuit likewise observed that "the Court has adopted a broad definition of 'religion' that includes non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as theistic ones."8 The Seventh Circuit went on to note that "[t]he Supreme Court has recognized atheism as equivalent to a 'religion' for purposes of the First Amendment on numerous occasions[.] . . ."9 Earlier, the Seventh Circuit had observed that "[i]f we think of religion as taking a position on divinity, then atheism is indeed a form of religion."
Now evolution in some forms totally rejects any God, thus is a non-theistic belief. I am not talking about churches that accept some form of evolution, but the atheistic belief in No God.
Now I am aware of no atheist that believes in a God as "a"theism is the opposite of theism.
Agnostics may believe in the possibility, etc of a God, but atheism does not.
So how does atheistic belief in Evolution (no God at all involved) impact this as, according to the Courts, atheism is a religion. Thus Evolution would be a "doctrine" of atheism.
expat, even if you go along with the extremely limited perception of athism as "religion" for certain purposes, at best evolution could be regarded as a tenet of that "religion" and not as a religion itself, especially since evolution is quite separately regarded as true by some conventional faith systems. You tried to stretch the court's point too far and it broke........resulting in drivel.
In 2005, the Supreme Court reiterated its view that religion should not be defined narrowly,7 and the Seventh Circuit likewise observed that "the Court has adopted a broad definition of 'religion' that includes non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as theistic ones."8 The Seventh Circuit went on to note that "[t]he Supreme Court has recognized atheism as equivalent to a 'religion' for purposes of the First Amendment on numerous occasions[.] . . ."9 Earlier, the Seventh Circuit had observed that "[i]f we think of religion as taking a position on divinity, then atheism is indeed a form of religion."
Now evolution in some forms totally rejects any God, thus is a non-theistic belief. I am not talking about churches that accept some form of evolution, but the atheistic belief in No God.
Now I am aware of no atheist that believes in a God as "a"theism is the opposite of theism.
Agnostics may believe in the possibility, etc of a God, but atheism does not.
So how does atheistic belief in Evolution (no God at all involved) impact this as, according to the Courts, atheism is a religion. Thus Evolution would be a "doctrine" of atheism.
Convoluted nonsensical bafflegab.
"Evolution" doesn't reject anything. Evolution is a process.
Most educated people on the planet - whatever their religious inclinations or lack thereof - accept evolution as truth.
That a minority of Christian and Muslim fundamentalists don't is because they are not well educated, can't read, or don't think very well.
In 2005, the Supreme Court reiterated its view that religion should not be defined narrowly,7 and the Seventh Circuit likewise observed that "the Court has adopted a broad definition of 'religion' that includes non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as theistic ones."8 The Seventh Circuit went on to note that "[t]he Supreme Court has recognized atheism as equivalent to a 'religion' for purposes of the First Amendment on numerous occasions[.] . . ."9 Earlier, the Seventh Circuit had observed that "[i]f we think of religion as taking a position on divinity, then atheism is indeed a form of religion."
Now evolution in some forms totally rejects any God, thus is a non-theistic belief. I am not talking about churches that accept some form of evolution, but the atheistic belief in No God.
Wrong. Non sequitur. Evolution theory says nothing whatsoever about God or the origin of life. It simply describes the process of change in life forms over time, period.
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Originally Posted by TroutDude
Convoluted nonsensical bafflegab. "Evolution" doesn't reject anything. Evolution is a process. Most educated people on the planet - whatever their religious inclinations or lack thereof - accept evolution as truth.
That a minority of Christian and Muslim fundamentalists don't is because they are not well educated, can't read, or don't think very well.
I am not saying that the Federal Courts seem to be doing so.
I read the ID link. I did not see where it said evolution was a religion. It doesn't even say it in the title. Is there a bit of projecting going on here?
Just because you trust something, doesn't mean it's "a" God? Unless of course, you practice idolatry?
By doing such, these people show their hypocrisy by in fact making themself god, making themself judge over what God spoke as inspired, making themself the arbitrator of absolute truth ..
and how do you do it? with a mentality of judging the Bible like this :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade
"How exactly does it happen that normal human beings, all endowed with that of a conscience, having an awareness of individual responsibility for their judgments and choices? Manage to justify in their own eyes the most inhuman atrocities; and acts of self-righteousness, without running into intolerable cognitive dissonance within their own supreme values?"
In other words: Jerwade's own supreme values has an awareness that judges that certain portions of God's Word (if true) does not meet Jerwade's own supreme values ... much to the dismay of the inability of those who'd want rep choir concurs.
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