'When We Obey God..We're Doing It For Ourself' - True or False (Bible, homosexuality)
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To me this is the whole problem of the sin conscious ^^
No one said anything about sin.
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So you want to feel miserable ?
No one said anything about having to feel miserable.
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what is wrong in feeling good?
No one said there is something wrong about feeling good.
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Do you not think that when God fills you with his joy and peace it makes you feel good, that there's a lightness in your spirit, that changes your outlook upon everything you see and causes you to act in a way that is a blessing to all?.
No one said otherwise.
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So any intelligent person that knows the sources of happiness is going to go to that source and if you do not believe happiness does not make you feel good then I feel for you, because your religion is doing nothing for you.
No one said happiness does not make one feel good.
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God does not want you poor and miserable, he wants you happy abnd prosperous, just like you as a Father have the same desire for your children.
No one said God wants us miserable.
Sounds like you are having an argument with yourself.
What is your take on Victoria Osteen's (Joel Osteen wife) comments? Should our motivation for serving God be making ourself happy, because happy people makes God happy? She has received some criticism for her comments.
Lakewood Church co-pastor Victoria Osteen received backlash from the Christian community after video footage of an August sermon surfaced showing Osteen encouraging congregants to "do good for your own self."
The pastor, who is married to televangelist Joel Osteen, told the congregation that the key to making God happy is first making oneself happy. Osteen said:
Once the video began making rounds on social media, many in the Christian community took to Twitter and personal blogs to express their dismay at Osteen's comments.
No one said anything about having to feel miserable.
No one said there is something wrong about feeling good.
No one said otherwise.
No one said happiness does not make one feel good.
No one said God wants us miserable.
Sounds like you are having an argument with yourself.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
. This is the whole problem with the Osteen message which revolves around the 'feel good' prosperity gospel.
Lets break this down. What is wrong with feeling good that God wants us to prosper ?. What is it you want to hear from the Osteen's ?. That they believe in what you do ?.
It very much sounds like you have a problem with feeling good and being prosperous having anything to do with faith. I will ask you again do you believe in being prosperous and desiring that your own children feel good and prosper throughout their lives ?.
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, HOW MUCH MORE shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him. Matthew 7:11
You can deny it as much as you want but those who live by faith just like those who live in fear, feel the reality of what their faith or fear is in.
That the communication of your faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus. Philemon 1:6
Lets break this down. What is wrong with feeling good that God wants us to prosper ?. What is it you want to hear from the Osteen's ?. That they believe in what you do ?.
It very much sounds like you have a problem with feeling good and being prosperous having anything to do with faith. I will ask you again do you believe in being prosperous and desiring that your own children feel good and prosper throughout their lives ?.
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, HOW MUCH MORE shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him. Matthew 7:11
You can deny it as much as you want but those who live by faith just like those who live in fear, feel the reality of what their faith or fear is in.
Again, no one said there is something wrong about feeling good. You are missing the point, and you end up sounding like you are arguing with yourself.
Again, no one said there is something wrong about feeling good. You are missing the point, and you end up sounding like you are arguing with yourself.
What is the point YOU are trying to make , if it is not that the Osteen's major on God desiring us to feel good about ourselves and desiring that we prosper. What do you want them to talk about ?.
The issue is, you have no problem feeling good about yourselves and being prosperous, but because the Osteen's actually say what you want for yourself, you take issue with it.
Anyone who says they do not want to feel good or prosper is lying.
What is the point YOU are trying to make , if it is not that the Osteen's major on God desiring us to feel good about ourselves and desiring that we prosper. What do you want them to talk about ?.
The issue is, you have no problem feeling good about yourselves and being prosperous, but because the Osteen's actually say what you want for yourself, you take issue with it.
Anyone who says they do not want to feel good or prosper is lying.
Read post 17 and see if it helps.
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