How to prepare for hell if you are divorced and remarried (homosexuality, verse)

[Jrhockney]

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

In the sight of God they remain married to their first spouse as the two became one.

And I still feel inclined to call BS...Aside from all the other reasons I've stated that directly challenge this assumption on this thread already, God is all knowing and he knows certain marriages are doomed from the beginning because one or both of one or both of them was abusive and unchangeable. If God "brought together" such couples just because they decided to marry in our current cultures model of marriage, we should be serious questioning his commonsense or love of us. I still think you are taking what is mostly a classic Shamai vs Hillel debate passage to an extreme and unrealistic standard based mostly on modern divorce statistics. How about post statistics about the effects on Children and society where abuse is involved and the marriages stay together?...here's a few:
http://blogs.familyeducation.com/parenting/chatterbox/erin-d/bad-marriage-may-be-worse-divorce-kids
http://www.child-psych.org/2011/08/divorce-abuse-or-depression-what-is-worse-for-your-child.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/27/kids-and-divorce-_n_4676361.html

[Hannibal Flavius]

Originally Posted by ashleynj

Why not?

You are in a marriage, the laws of marriage is about the marriage of flesh and spirit.

Have you divorced your wife for another?

This is a continuing speech about what a man does with what has been given him.

If God has given you this life on loan, it is not even your body, and it is the most trivial thing of all, but if you prove your unworthy in what is trivial with this worthless life, why would God give you an incorruptible body and wife of power when you have failed and chosen another wife in this life?

If you have been unrighteous in this marriage, why in the world would God give you what is really yours in the next life?

This life is on loan to decided if you deserve a new marriage.

Jesus doesn't just blurt out laws of marriage out of context like a rambling idiot, he is continuing the same speech over and over and over.

It goes right into Lazarus and the rich man, because they are the same person, and the rich man is a man who chose to seek money instead of the priesthood.




“And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may receive you into an everlasting home. He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own?
“No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”
The Law, the Prophets, and the Kingdom

Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, also heard all these things, and they derided Him. And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.
“The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it. And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.
“Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.
The Rich Man and Lazarus

“There was a certain rich man






Before you speak of the physical laws of Marriage, you should understand the real truth hidden behind those laws of Marriage, because where you might point out sin in the flesh, somebody may turn around and point out sin in the spirit.

[Arach Angle]

why would any body tell somebody that?
That is just flat out mean spirited.

[Hannibal Flavius]

Israel came up to a marriage canopy at the mountain and they were given a marriage contract and said,'' We will.'' before they even heard the contract.

They are married to the law and word of God.


Moses came down from the mountain with a certain contract and what did he find?

He found the bride committing adultery because they had went back to their Paganism.

Adultery against a wife is a serious matter, but adultery against God is a much worse serious matter.

[Avenger58]

I am amazed at highlifeii comment since you cheated with my wife while you were married. Hope your wife divorced you and you got what you deserved! KARMA

[Jrhockney]

Originally Posted by Avenger58

I am amazed at highlifeii comment since you cheated with my wife while you were married. Hope your wife divorced you and you got what you deserved! KARMA

....Wow....if this is true, this is the most epic thread bump I have ever seen!

[Matthew 4:4]

Originally Posted by highlife2

It is said that a remarried person commits adultry and adulters will not enter heaven. It is also said in dueteronmy that it is an abomination to go back to your first wife once either have divorced and remarried. So all that leaves is being celibate. If one is not willing to be celibate then does God help them get prepared for hell?

To which hell are you referring? Did God help Jesus get prepared for hell - Acts 2:27; Psalm 16:10

Please notice the divorce exception that Jesus gives for a scriptural divorce is found at Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9
Except for the grounds of: ' fornication '
( fornication from the Greek word Porneia. That is also where we get in English the words pornography and porn )
The reason Jesus did Not use the word adultery is because in the Greek fornication ( porneia ) covers more than adultery.
For example: have sex with an animal ( porneia ) would be scriptural grounds for divorce.
So, any un-natural sex could be grounds for a scriptural divorce.

[Zen88]

What if a gay couple is elderly, and no longer commits prohibited sex acts, and just lives together? Like roommates? Is it a sin that they care about each other?

If the characters on The Golden Girls were real, they weren't lesbian and just shared a home together, what about them?

What about two people who find themselves sharing a room in a nursing home, and they get along, and would have moved in together in their own place if they were able, in order to help each other live?

A great aunt of mine was an elderly widow, and she lived in a senior citizens apartment complex. An elderly neighbor lost his wife. This man and my aunt got along, so they moved in together to help each other with life, and to help each other financially. They shared a bed, but I doubt if anything other than snoring went on (and if it did, God Bless 'em!!). Were they condemning themselves to eternal damnation? Should they have gone to the expense and effort to get married, which would have been a burden (everything's a burden at that age), and she would've lost her late husband's tiny military pension from an old war injury?

[Matthew 4:4]

Originally Posted by Zen88

What if a gay couple is elderly, and no longer commits prohibited sex acts, and just lives together? Like roommates? Is it a sin that they care about each other?
If the characters on The Golden Girls were real, they weren't lesbian and just shared a home together, what about them?
What about two people who find themselves sharing a room in a nursing home, and they get along, and would have moved in together in their own place if they were able, in order to help each other live?
A great aunt of mine was an elderly widow, and she lived in a senior citizens apartment complex. An elderly neighbor lost his wife. This man and my aunt got along, so they moved in together to help each other with life, and to help each other financially. They shared a bed, but I doubt if anything other than snoring went on (and if it did, God Bless 'em!!). Were they condemning themselves to eternal damnation? Should they have gone to the expense and effort to get married, which would have been a burden (everything's a burden at that age), and she would've lost her late husband's tiny military pension from an old war injury?

The ^ above ^ situation is common place today.
Since Jesus said Not to judge which means personal judgement as to Not impute a bad or a wrong motive to others.
God's judgement about fornication is already recorded for us in Scripture.
So, anyone Not married is to refrain from fornication.
God is the one who judges the marriage bed according to Hebrews 13:4

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Matthew 4:4

The ^ above ^ situation is common place today.
Since Jesus said Not to judge which means personal judgement as to Not impute a bad or a wrong motive to others.
God's judgement about fornication is already recorded for us in Scripture.
So, anyone Not married is to refrain from fornication.
God is the one who judges the marriage bed according to Hebrews 13:4

How do you explain Isaac and Rebekah?...