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Old 11-07-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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You really don't get it. The key word is UNINVITED . . . especially when it comes to what you believe God wants. We are each responsible for VOLUNTARILY complying. HUMAN enforcement plays no role! God is not impotent.
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Are you suggesting that every time your parents taught you right from wrong, as a child, that you invited that correction?
Are you suggesting that you are everyone's PARENT??? That takes the usual arrogance and "busybodiness" of Fundies to new heights. Work on your own prideful arrogance and not other people's failings.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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This discussion isn't about how the person receiving correction takes it. That is beside the point. The question is whether or not a person should give their unsolicited opinion about another person's behavior.

If someone asks for your opinion about their behavior then that may be the time to give it.
That has been proven through scripture that in love someone can guide another with the wisdom of God's word.

So are you stating that if someone tells you something without your permission then you ignore it. If you are driving park your car, and someone tells you that you left your lights on, then you ignore them because you didn't ask them for their help?
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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Oh, sorry, missed this the first time somehow.

You're moving the goal posts. There is obviously a difference between parent/child relationship and adult/adult relationships.
No I'm not. This can apply to any relationship. If you are suggesting that we should not give unsolicited advice then you are suggesting that parents cannot correct their children, or a boss cannot reprimand their employees or even a moderator cannot tell a poster when they are doing something wrong on here. You are now making this notion of solicited advice conditional, but you said earlier that it's wrong to give unsolicited advice. That means mensaguy and June 7th cannot give you infractions because then they would be giving you unsolicited advice on how to behave yourself on here.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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That has been proven through scripture that in love someone can guide another with the wisdom of God's word.

So are you stating that if someone tells you something without your permission then you ignore it. If you are driving park your car, and someone tells you that you left your lights on, then you ignore them because you didn't ask them for their help?

Again, we are not talking about how I, or anyone else, receives unsolicited advice so there's no need to keep taking the discussion there as an attempt to justify your desire to give unsolicited advice.

And, you don't really see the difference between someone being helpful (letting me know I left my lights on) and someone giving their opinion/judgment that another person's behavior is sinful?
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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No I'm not. This can apply to any relationship. If you are suggesting that we should give unsolicited advice then you are suggesting that parents cannot correct their children, or a boss cannot reprimand their employees or even a moderator cannot tell a poster when they are doing something wrong on here. You are now making this notion of solicited advice conditional, but you said earlier that it's wrong to give unsolicited advice.
Yes and only a fool won't listen to advice, even if not asked for. Though they can always reject it.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:38 AM
 
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Again, we are not talking about how I, or anyone else, receives unsolicited advice so there's no need to keep taking the discussion there as an attempt to justify your desire to give unsolicited advice.

And, you don't really see the difference between someone being helpful (letting me know I left my lights on) and someone giving their opinion/judgment that another person's behavior is sinful?
Please tell me what the difference between the two is. Is helping someone get out of sin not helpful? It would be better for them to live in sin so they can burn in hell? That's more helpful?
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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You really don't get it. The key word is UNINVITED . . . especially when it comes to what you believe God wants. We are each responsible for VOLUNTARILY complying. HUMAN enforcement plays no role! God is not impotent.
There is a vast difference between advice and enforcement. Your changing the issue.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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No I'm not. This can apply to any relationship. If you are suggesting that we should not give unsolicited advice then you are suggesting that parents cannot correct their children, or a boss cannot reprimand their employees or even a moderator cannot tell a poster when they are doing something wrong on here. You are now making this notion of solicited advice conditional, but you said earlier that it's wrong to give unsolicited advice. That means mensaguy and June 7th cannot give you infractions because then they would be giving you unsolicited advice on how to behave yourself on here.

It's very odd that you don't see the difference between a parent/child or an employer/employee relationship and an adult/adult relationship.

As for the moderators here, we agreed to be moderated when we signed on to participate here, therefore it is not unsolicited advice.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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No I'm not. This can apply to any relationship. If you are suggesting that we should not give unsolicited advice then you are suggesting that parents cannot correct their children, or a boss cannot reprimand their employees or even a moderator cannot tell a poster when they are doing something wrong on here. You are now making this notion of solicited advice conditional, but you said earlier that it's wrong to give unsolicited advice. That means mensaguy and June 7th cannot give you infractions because then they would be giving you unsolicited advice on how to behave yourself on here.
Plus the thread is about "fellow Christians" and by definition Christians are family and by joining the family they indicate they are open to advice, etc from family members without asking. Non family, self absorbed individuals, don't want such.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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Are you suggesting that you are everyone's PARENT??? That takes the usual arrogance and "busybodiness" of Fundies to new heights. Work on your own prideful arrogance and not other people's failings.
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That has been proven through scripture that in love someone can guide another with the wisdom of God's word.
THAT is the problem . . . you are pretending to speak for GOD!!! You are not giving helpful advice about obvious things . . . you are taking on the SELF-APPOINTED mantle of God's agent. How dare you???
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