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Old 11-18-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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With this ever so simple sentence, the problem has been identified.


Fundies always think they have to WAGE THE WAR...

For me, GOD will always take it on...
Its a war on Christmas! We're a Christian (majority) nation and we must force everyone to look at our manger scenes!! To hel..heck with religious freedom! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
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Old 11-18-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: North America
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If it were the other way you would say "Hallelujah! Jesus is one our side! The greater number of the World is against us!" If it were liked by a vast majority you would also twist that fact to support your religion, "Jesus' work bears its fruit!" Religions are designed to bias people to think they are right no matter what happens.

I'm pretty sure the message will be "take over the holiday by warring against it by joining it and doing it better" just like his message for Halloween. Kirk Cameron and the churches are always vying for worldly power. Their believes about having God's love must not be comfortable enough for them, they feel like they need to win their fallible human influence over the world. Good luck to them, hope this personality-worship focus does something good for them and other people.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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Here is a review of the movie:

‘Kirk Cameron’s Saving Christmas’ movie review - The Washington Post

The one sales pitch that’s hardest to buy is Cameron’s insistence that there’s nothing wrong with the materialistic focus of Christmas. His characterization of Jesus as a “material” gift to us from God — evidence, he claims, that God wants us to shop — should offend anyone who balks at placing the Christ Child on the same scale as a $25 gift card.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I don't think I have ever disliked anyone as much as Kirk Cameron.


I couldn't watch anything he ever did.



It's that whole left behind thing that gets me.


The wicked are not left behind, the righteous are.

It is not two men in a bed either, it is one man being cut in half.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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How come none of these guys talk about Advent?
I remember getting those Advent calendars as a kid where you get a piece of chocolate every day.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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If it's produced by Kirk Cameron, you can be sure it's got a good message and
will be entertaining also.
Sadly, all you have to do is look at the you tube thumbs up/down to see
exactly where young people who frequent you tube have been twisted these days.
1508 to 1423. Jesus said this would happen.
Yeah, I remember that episode of "Growing Pains" with an appearance by Jesus

Kirk is really a nut.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I don't think I have ever disliked anyone as much as Kirk Cameron.


I couldn't watch anything he ever did.



It's that whole left behind thing that gets me.


The wicked are not left behind, the righteous are.

It is not two men in a bed either, it is one man being cut in half.
Agreed... although I had a crush on him as a teenager lol!

Save Christmas?? Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. The whole thing is a made up holiday used to convert Pagans!
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Agreed... although I had a crush on him as a teenager lol!

Save Christmas?? Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. The whole thing is a made up holiday used to convert Pagans!


Jesus was Born on the first day of Tabernacles and everything done at this feast shows it.


Tabernacles is an appointed day of birth just as Nissan 17 is an appointed day of birth and Jesus was also born on that day.

Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day of Tabernacles, the conclusion day of the fall season just as Pentecost is the conclusion day of the spring season.

As the spirit was given on Pentecost because the law was given, so too is the law given on the conclusion day of the fall.

The great eighth day of circumcision is also showing circumcision and appointed for that reason.


The feast of Tabernacles is offered for the gentile nations, they sacrifice the bulls for the nations, but after 7 days of Gentiles keeping the feast of Tabernacles, a Gentile is sent home on the eighth day, Gentiles are circumcised from the congregation, and only the true brethren of the Lord will be in attendance, but this doesn't mean that a Gentile cannot be considered the true brethren.



The main point should be pointed out that Jesus was born a man, and the days of birth in the worship cycle are given to all men.


Where Jesus was born on the first of Tabernacles, so too is a man born on Tabernacles if he has reached the goal in being able to walk in Tabernacles.


You walk in Passover dying daily, and if you have walked in Passover long enough, THEN you walk in Pentecost, and this is to move from the outer court of Gentiles where the burnt offering is, to being able to walk in the Temple proper where Jews are allowed to go.


Once you have walked in Pentecost, you can then move up and really be born.


The 3 parables in Matthew 13

The sower
The wheat and tares
The mustard seed.

This is a walk in the barley harvest of Passover where you die daily, and being that you have died to yourself, you can then walk in the wheat harvest of Pentecost.

After you have walked in Pentecost, you can become a great tree that gives sustenance and shelter to the many because you have just been born in Tabernacles.

The 4th parable of the kingdom of heaven being leaven are those 3 parables.

The leaven is hid in 3 measures of meal, and those are your 3 harvests, and the 3 parables spoke before the 4th.


You are the 3 meals in body, soul, and spirit.









The Holy days are instructions for walking a progressive plan, and Revelation is specifically given to instruct how to walk in that plan.




Left behind happens on a particular feast day.


Because the servant does not what the times and seasons{feast days}, and because the person did not give the children of God meat in due seasons{feast days}, that person is cut in two and appointed his place amongst the sinners.

Being cut in two is not a literal cutting of the body, it is dividing soul and spirit.


2 men in a bed is the same person.

2 woman at the wheel is the same person.

One is taken and one is left behind because the person has just been divided in half like the division of Elijah and Elisha.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Agreed... although I had a crush on him as a teenager lol!

Save Christmas?? Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. The whole thing is a made up holiday used to convert Pagans!
He may not have been born on that exact day, but that does not mean he never existed. The exact date does not matter.

I never know my dogs' birthdays because I adopt them, so we make up a birthday for them. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:28 PM
 
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If it's produced by Kirk Cameron, you can be sure it's got a good message
Ahh yes, Kirk Cameron and his good messages. Here's him sending the good message that "God hates gay people. God hates ****, and you're going to Hell." (at the 1:00 minute mark)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLllfWxZXLY#t=67
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