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Old 11-19-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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There is a date but I haven't stated it.
Will it be this spring?
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Old 11-19-2014, 10:28 PM
 
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There is a date but I haven't stated it.
That's why I put in my last statement. I wanted to make it clear that I wasn't accusing you of date setting.

I once made an offhand comment about a date in jest at a church we used to attend. The wife of one of the leaders overheard and didn't share my sense of humor. It landed me in hot water with the pastor, but I didn't care. If you can't laugh at yourselves, who can you laugh at?
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Old 11-19-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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Are you saying there are no longer any people alive today who lived in 1948? Everything the Bible has said about Israel has come true
I suppose my question is, "How long does the Bible say a generation is?" 40 years, right?
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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Will it be this spring?
If you studied the things I posted so far it will aid you to knowing when.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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That's why I put in my last statement. I wanted to make it clear that I wasn't accusing you of date setting.

I once made an offhand comment about a date in jest at a church we used to attend. The wife of one of the leaders overheard and didn't share my sense of humor. It landed me in hot water with the pastor, but I didn't care. If you can't laugh at yourselves, who can you laugh at?
The thing problem that many make is to say that we can't know the date or time. Some even go as far as to say that Jesus doesn't even know which would put those people at direct contradiction with scriptures that say that ALL things were given to Him.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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it's not important to guess/know the date. what's more important is to live your life as if He was coming back tomorrow. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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it's not important to guess/know the date. what's more important is to live your life as if He was coming back tomorrow. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.
Yes.

Anything else is living for yourself and look where Adam doing that got us.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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it's not important to guess/know the date. what's more important is to live your life as if He was coming back tomorrow. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.
I believe they are both important to live your life as He does and that it is also important to know the date.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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All of scripture, including End Time prophecy has been written for all of mankind, but, intended for every individual. The Olivet Discourse signs are relatively generic, giving every generation since the first century equal reason to believe that theirs were the End Times and final generation. And, in a sense, they were individually correct, since every individual of every generation has faced their own 'End Times'.

Of course, there are a few more specific 'signs' like the re-establishment of the nation Israel (1948), restoration of Jerusalem (1967) and frenetic world conditions. Like rapidly-increasing 'birth pains,' these 'signs of the season' lead me and many others to believe that Christ's return is imminent and that nothing further remains to be fulfilled.

However, the rarely asked question is: 'Are End Time signs given so that people can accurately predict the time ('season') of Christ's return ... or for some other reason? (The time could certainly have been more clearly revealed; plus, nothing can be done on earth to change that time or events).

IMO, the Lord and scripture presents End Time signs in such a way that every individual of every generation has an equal reason to believe that theirs truly could be the final generation (ie; wars, rumors of wars, signs in the sky, quakes, famine, etc). The point is NOT 'date setting or prediction,' but, rather, to create an universal and equal sense of urgency in the response of every individual of every generation ... to God, Christ, their fellow believers and this 'lost and dying world.'

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Old 11-20-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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All of scripture, including End Time prophecy has been written for all of mankind, but, intended for every individual. The Olivet Discourse signs are relatively generic, giving every generation since the first century equal reason to believe that theirs were the End Times and final generation. And, in a sense, they were individually correct, since every individual of every generation has faced its own 'End Times'.

Of course, there are a few more specific 'signs' like the re-establishment of the nation Israel (1948), restoration of Jerusalem (1967) and frenetic world conditions. Like rapidly-increasing 'birth pains,' these 'signs of the season' lead me and many others to believe that Christ's return is imminent and that nothing further remains to be fulfilled.

The rarely asked question is: 'Are End Time signs given so that people can accurately predict the time ('season') of Christ's return ... or for some other reason? (The time could certainly have been more clearly revealed; plus, nothing can be done on earth to change that time or events).

IMO, the Lord and scripture presents End Time signs in such a way that every individual of every generation has an equal reason to believe that theirs truly could be the final generation (ie; wars, rumors of wars, signs in the sky, quakes, famine, etc). The point is NOT 'date setting or prediction,' but, rather, to create an universal and equal sense of urgency in the response of every individual of every generation ... to God, Christ, their fellow believers and this 'lost and dying world.'
Just because every generation had people that THOUHT it was applicable to there generation doesn't mean is not applicable to a certain one. That would be faulty logic.
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