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Old 01-17-2015, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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**** I AM NOT DATE SETTING, AS NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR OF HIS RETURN*****


Jesus was said to have been born anywhere between 6-4BC and died anywhere between 29-31 AD.

So if the year 2029-2031 would make it 6000 yrs, a pre trib rapture should take place anywhere between 2022-2024 in order to be the final 7 yrs of the 2000yrs since his death.

If the year 2025 comes and there is no rapture, will Christians finally be convinced to be prepared to go through the tribulation and stop thinking they will just disappear and not have to go through any trials?
Not at all. The pre-trib group will simply extend the date again.
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Old 01-17-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: USA
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Not at all. The pre-trib group will simply extend the date again.
But of course. Christ's return will always be "just around the corner."
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Old 01-18-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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Doesn't anyone bother to read the opening verses of Revelation? It was addressed to seven Asian Churches that have long-since disappeared. That should tell people something.

Actually they were addressed to the congregation not the building( church)
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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Actually they were addressed to the congregation not the building( church)
The use of church to refer to the institution is fairly well established, I think. Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Personally don't believe in a "secret rapture" and find no evidence for one in the bible. It is an invention of other-than-biblical sources and therefore, a moot point for me.
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Old 01-18-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Not at all. The pre-trib group will simply extend the date again.

When you have come to Rosh Hashanah, you die.


The date is Tishri 1, and it awaits people who would walk right into the kingdom.

On that day, you are stood on your feet and taken to heaven.
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Old 01-18-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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Personally don't believe in a "secret rapture" and find no evidence for one in the bible. It is an invention of other-than-biblical sources and therefore, a moot point for me.

It does teach--they will be changed in the twinkling of an eye( never to taste death) BUT

Only these will have that--rev 14:3= the little flock( Luke 12:32)= 144,000--they are numbered and few are here now.
As for the great multitude of other sheep which no man can number--Gods word is clear--They received this promise from Jesus-- Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the EARTH.
as well Proverbs 2:21-22--the upright and blameless( righteous) will be left over on the earth.
Matt 24:22--unless those days( trib-Harmageddon) were cut short no flesh( righteous) would be saved.

this is reality.
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Old 01-18-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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**** I AM NOT DATE SETTING, AS NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR OF HIS RETURN*****


Jesus was said to have been born anywhere between 6-4BC and died anywhere between 29-31 AD.

So if the year 2029-2031 would make it 6000 yrs, a pre trib rapture should take place anywhere between 2022-2024 in order to be the final 7 yrs of the 2000yrs since his death.

If the year 2025 comes and there is no rapture, will Christians finally be convinced to be prepared to go through the tribulation and stop thinking they will just disappear and not have to go through any trials?
There is o no cryptic message in the bible. SOme, many believe the "rapture" is our personal death.
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Old 01-18-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: New England
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Hopefully you will put all forms of tribulation theories to bed with it too. if you are going to go through tribulation, i guarantee you it will not come from the world but your own ranks who think they are doing God a service. Some have already said recently they would kill their own son if God told them to.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: In Thy presence is fulness of joy... Psa 16:11
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Jesus said, "In this world ye shall have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world."
Jesus' followers have suffered persecution for much of the time since He ascended into heaven. Why do Christians in the West think they are going to escape that?
If you look at the Beatitudes in Matt 5-7, the last one says that you are blessed if men revile you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil falsely, for my name's sake. This is after He taught "blessed are the poor in spirit," etc. So it is one of many things Jesus taught must be a part of a Christian's "normal." If it is not...is that Christian really salt and light like Jesus called them to be?
Looking forward to Jesus' return, and working until He does!
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