Who is really Running The Show? (dinosaur, church, Revelation, believe)
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OK..here me out on this, please, and I implore you to have patience with this question, as it is a difficult and complex one, thus is a bit tricky insofar as framing it in a clear and concise manner. Nonetheless, I truly believe it is an interesting and vital question, and indeed one that merits a lively and entertainingly-informative thread.
To begin: Let us say you are a visitor to this planet from somewhere else.
You first read all the biblical literature that Man currently has available from throughout history. This of course includes the Christian bible, as well as all mentions and writings of Satan. or Lucifer, or Son of the Morningstar, The Accuser, or whoever you wish to call him.
And so you become familiar with the attributes, the powers, the characteristics, and the shortcomings of both the Judeo-Christian God, Yahweh, as well as those of Satan. (As I shall refer to him for the remainder of this thread in the interest of brevity.)
After acquainting yourself with all this literature and philosophy, you are given a tour of the World as it is Today. You see the wars; the violence; the poverty; the disease; the pestilence; the greed; the hunger; the famine.
And of course you also see the love, the families, the kindness, the charity and the philanthropy. At least what there is of it.
So when asked which of these two primary deities you believe is actually in charge, in control of the World--assuming of of course you had to choose one.
Satan? Or God?
I am of the opinion any objective, agenda-free, intelligent person wold have to come to the conclusion that Satan is in charge. After all, none of the christian apologetics or philosophers has ever been able to explain the reason for God allowing Evil. The "free will" argument does not make sense at the end of the day, as it flies in the face of too much logic. (why would god go to the trouble of beginning anew with the Flood only to allow evil again? And wasn't original sin erased with the new world after the deluge?)
Either God cannot stop evil or he allows it. Neither makes sense, does it? As the former denigrates his alleged omniscience and the latter decries his goodness.
Ahh...but EVERYTHING in this current world is exactly as it should be if Satan is in charge. Right?
Or no? If not, please name one thing that is different in our world today than it would be if Satan was not the Supreme Ruler.
I thank you in advance for your well-thought and non-hostile responses, as I fully realize this thread is going to rankle some of the more religiously-inclined people here.
The God of the bible is a sadistic mass murderer who has a much higher "body count" than Satan (according to the bible). So if God and Satan are actually real, I would say that God really is in charge and simply enjoys seeing humans suffer.
OK..here me out on this, please, and I implore you to have patience with this question, as it is a difficult and complex one, thus is a bit tricky insofar as framing it in a clear and concise manner. Nonetheless, I truly believe it is an interesting and vital question, and indeed one that merits a lively and entertainingly-informative thread.
To begin: Let us say you are a visitor to this planet from somewhere else.
You first read all the biblical literature that Man currently has available from throughout history. This of course includes the Christian bible, as well as all mentions and writings of Satan. or Lucifer, or Son of the Morningstar, The Accuser, or whoever you wish to call him.
And so you become familiar with the attributes, the powers, the characteristics, and the shortcomings of both the Judeo-Christian God, Yahweh, as well as those of Satan. (As I shall refer to him for the remainder of this thread in the interest of brevity.)
After acquainting yourself with all this literature and philosophy, you are given a tour of the World as it is Today. You see the wars; the violence; the poverty; the disease; the pestilence; the greed; the hunger; the famine.
And of course you also see the love, the families, the kindness, the charity and the philanthropy. At least what there is of it.
So when asked which of these two primary deities you believe is actually in charge, in control of the World--assuming of of course you had to choose one.
Satan? Or God?
I am of the opinion any objective, agenda-free, intelligent person wold have to come to the conclusion that Satan is in charge. After all, none of the christian apologetics or philosophers has ever been able to explain the reason for God allowing Evil. The "free will" argument does not make sense at the end of the day, as it flies in the face of too much logic. (why would god go to the trouble of beginning anew with the Flood only to allow evil again? And wasn't original sin erased with the new world after the deluge?)
Either God cannot stop evil or he allows it. Neither makes sense, does it? As the former denigrates his alleged omniscience and the latter decries his goodness.
Ahh...but EVERYTHING in this current world is exactly as it should be if Satan is in charge. Right?
Or no? If not, please name one thing that is different in our world today than it would be if Satan was not the Supreme Ruler.
I thank you in advance for your well-thought and non-hostile responses, as I fully realize this thread is going to rankle some of the more religiously-inclined people here.
lmao.
we are acting exactly like a large group of humans.
Dear DDI,
The writings attributable to Satan, were termed as the seeds of the evil one, cast along with the good seed. The main son of Satan, was the self professed apostle Paul. He and his associates were responsible for approximately 2/3 of the NT. Paul's followers would come under the term the "many", who are on the path to destruction.
As to who is running the show, that would be the beast, who received his authority from the "dragon". The beast with 7 heads, simply exemplified world leaders. The 6th head, ruling during the writing of the book of Revelation, was one of the Augustus Caesars, who represented the resurrected Julius Caesar. We are now in the age of the 8th head of the beast who had 10 horns. The 7th head of the beast was Constantine, who established the Roman church, and deceived those who dwell on the earth by means of that church and her daughters.
For quite a few million years, dinosaurs were running the show. That was an exceptionally long run.
We mammals have not been at it nearly as long. And the humans who are currently running the show have only been at for a measly couple-hundred thousand years.
The God of the bible is a sadistic mass murderer who has a much higher "body count" than Satan (according to the bible). So if God and Satan are actually real, I would say that God really is in charge and simply enjoys seeing humans suffer.
The OP is obviously referring to the primary end-product of the evolution in perceptions of God found in the Bible (leaving out some of the throwback perceptions in Revelation) so to go along with that we should assume a God whose primary characteristic is a concern for humanity.
Therefore, I'd have to say that the only reasonable conclusion is that no one is "in charge," and that there is a conflict in perceptions of what is best for the people with whom any perceiver is concerned. Shucks, just a study of American Politics would show THAT.
The OP is obviously referring to the primary end-product of the evolution in perceptions of God found in the Bible (leaving out some of the throwback perceptions in Revelation) so to go along with that we should assume a God whose primary characteristic is a concern for humanity.
The OP specifically refers to biblical literature and the Judeo-Christian God. I see no mention of a "primary end product of the evolution of perceptions of God."
The God of the bible is a sadistic mass murderer who has a much higher "body count" than Satan (according to the bible). So if God and Satan are actually real, I would say that God really is in charge and simply enjoys seeing humans suffer.
Hmmm...you have a point there, partner. I never thought of it that way!
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