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Old 03-24-2015, 04:14 AM
 
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Samson said to them, “This time I have a right to get even with the Philistines; I will really harm them.” So he went out and caught three hundred foxes and tied them tail to tail in pairs. He then fastened a torch to every pair of tails, lit the torches and let the foxes loose in the standing grain of the Philistines. He burned up the shocks and standing grain, together with the vineyards and olive groves.

whenever one fox tried to run the other fox would get burned. All they have to do is sit still and everything will be fine but of course they don't have enough sense to do that. Apparently the Philistines thought that this was great entertainment. Samson did not think it was so he released them into the grain fields at harvest time.

The city of Shaalabbin (Beth-Dagon) is the city of foxes.

And he said, “Lord God, how shall I know that I will inherit it?”

So He said to him, “Bring Me a three-year-old heifer, a three-year-old female goat, a three-year-old ram, a turtledove, and a young pigeon.” Then he brought all these to Him and cut them in two, down the middle, and placed each piece opposite the other

Now when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and behold, horror and great darkness fell upon him.

And it came to pass, when the sun went down and it was dark, that behold, there appeared a smoking oven and a burning torch that passed between those pieces
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Old 03-24-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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As Christians, we often don't believe in the Hebrew hero fables such as Samson.
That's a tribal thing. Whether it happened or not, it's just meaningless to us.
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Old 03-24-2015, 09:21 AM
 
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Is Samson any more unlikely than Jesus?
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Old 03-24-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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you're not replying to what i actually said. i did not say Samson didn't exist.
then you're infusing a non-related topic, the existence of Jesus.
if that's where this thread is going, i'm outta here.
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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I like Robert Graves' speculation that the "foxes" was a veiled reference to the amanita muscaria or "magic mushroom" which is apparently red in that area. And setting the foxes loose was a reference to "berserkers" with a reaction known to be a result of the drug, similar to what happens often to people on amphetamines, being sent to destroy the harvest of the Philistines.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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that is what they said about Jesus too. They said he was demon possessed.

it is true that people running amok exhibit unnatural strength but samson was not a berserker

his feats were accomplished calmly by the finger of God
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:49 PM
 
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that is what they said about Jesus too. They said he was demon possessed.

it is true that people running amok exhibit unnatural strength but samson was not a berserker

his feats were accomplished calmly by the finger of God
Jesus wasn't a tribal war hero who killed armies and burned poor little animals.
Don't you see some similarities in the Herculean Greek myths and hero literature
like Samson ? Do you really think God loved the Hebrews so much that he wanted
everyone else dead ? There is no similarity between Jesus and most of the primitive
clash of clans crap in the Old Testament. Quite frankly outside of Psalms, Wisdom
and the prophets (the prophets who constantly warned the Israelites, and were
persecuted by them) the Old Testament is meaningless pap. To be a Christian
is to believe in the New Covenant, not this Conan the Barbarian stuff.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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that is what they said about Jesus too. They said he was demon possessed.

it is true that people running amok exhibit unnatural strength but samson was not a berserker

his feats were accomplished calmly by the finger of God
Leviticus, Numbers and Judges. Very much a part of the Temple.
Leviticus 11:44-47 The purpose of the law of clean and unclean is so that God�s people shall be holy, even as He is holy. This law teaches personal cleanliness and righteousness.
Numbers 18:15 Firstborn of man and firstlings of unclean beasts are to be redeemed.
Job 14:4 Man cannot bring a clean thing out of an unclean.

God in all his Glory and Wisdom.
Ezekiel 22:26 False prophets have violated God�s law, put no difference between the unclean and the clean, and profaned God�s Sabbaths.
Only through Jesus can the 2 unclean animals be Cleaned. I think the 2 unclean animals are Adam and Eve fallen. 7 was the number of Clean which was a temporary atonement. Until Jesus on the Sabbath(7)
So beautiful when it all comes together

Was the Fox an Unclean animal.?

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Old 03-25-2015, 05:01 AM
 
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Jesus wasn't a tribal war hero who killed armies and burned poor little animals.
Don't you see some similarities in the Herculean Greek myths and hero literature
like Samson ? Do you really think God loved the Hebrews so much that he wanted
everyone else dead ? There is no similarity between Jesus and most of the primitive
clash of clans crap in the Old Testament. Quite frankly outside of Psalms, Wisdom
and the prophets (the prophets who constantly warned the Israelites, and were
persecuted by them) the Old Testament is meaningless pap. To be a Christian
is to believe in the New Covenant, not this Conan the Barbarian stuff.
Jesus is Samson
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:39 PM
 
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Jesus wasn't a tribal war hero who killed armies and burned poor little animals.
Don't you see some similarities in the Herculean Greek myths and hero literature
like Samson ? Do you really think God loved the Hebrews so much that he wanted
everyone else dead ? There is no similarity between Jesus and most of the primitive
clash of clans crap in the Old Testament. Quite frankly outside of Psalms, Wisdom
and the prophets (the prophets who constantly warned the Israelites, and were
persecuted by them) the Old Testament is meaningless pap. To be a Christian
is to believe in the New Covenant, not this Conan the Barbarian stuff.
Got some New Test. Barbarism.
Stumbling Blocks?

41"The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43"Then THE RIGHTEOUS WILL SHINE FORTH AS THE SUN in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.
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