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I've seen similar circumstances with many denominations where they actually have a different denominational pastor come in to an originally different denominational church with most of its original members and gradually win people over with the slight theological differences.
Sounds like brainwashing. Tell 'em something over and over until they come to believe it.
Sounds like brainwashing. Tell 'em something over and over until they come to believe it.
In some instances, yes thats probably true. If they're sitting in the pews, they are proabaly open to at least some brainwashing aways Usually the theological differences are are so insignificant the people don't really raise much of a fuss especially if they had something to do with choosing the pastor or denomination. I only know this stuff because I've been a worship leader before at a few places.
I am saying they do not believe the religion followed by the minister that says he is against same sex marriage.
The person wanting the same sex marriage and the minister that refuses to do one have different religious beliefs. Although they may have the same beliefs about the other 99% of the religion.
why would a person want his religious wedding performed by a person who does not believe it is a valid ceremony?
Ask those gays in St Paul Minnesota who entered a Catholic church during Sunday mass as a form of protest in a vain attempt to get the Catholic church to accept/condone the gay lifestyle.
Ask them why they wanted to be in a church that believes gay marriage is a sin.
Have you never seen a couple get married and act all religious at the ceremony, in front of the pastor....then they got to the reception and cut loose...enjoying all sorts of things that they are well aware their pastor would not approve of? I assume it's that way in Islam to an extent...but in Christianity, it's funny how people want a "man of the cloth" to marry or bury them. They have no use for God any other time in their life...but those 2 times. Heck...I personally know a couple that got married in Vegas by a minister that they met 10 minutes before the ceremony. But she wanted it done in a chapel, by a minister. He would have been just as happy with an Elvis impersonator marrying them on the sidewalk. Neither one goes to church...but she wanted a semi-religious event.
while marriage is a religious requirement for Muslims it is not a Sacrament or religious ceremony. No clergy required.
An Islamic marriage is the signing of the Nikkah by the Bride and groom. This has to be witnessed by witnesses selected by the Bride and groom Each providing witnesses of their choosing.
the witnesses will be called in the event there is ever an accusation either party violated the terms of the Nikkah.
In recent years there has been copying of Western custom with the Nikkah being signed in a Mosque with an Imam officiating over the signing. But that is not required.
the nikkah is quite interesting it has to be negotiated between the bride and groom and the negotiations can take several years to complete.
While there are some required clauses that have to be included in the Nikkah the majority of the nikkah has to do with personal wants.
Ask those gays in St Paul Minnesota who entered a Catholic church during Sunday mass as a form of protest in a vain attempt to get the Catholic church to accept/condone the gay lifestyle.
Ask them why they wanted to be in a church that believes gay marriage is a sin.
I guess that is something I will never understand.
Just a desire to make every thing look legitimate to family and friends.
If a person needs to impress their peers, they might do better seeking another peer group.
What a load of crock. It's a huge difference between saying Moses wrote the Constitution vs Moses was an inspiration for the ideology of the founding fathers who wrote the Constitution.
It's sad that atheists hate religion so much that they want a complete divorcing of it from anything to do with history.
What a load of crock. It's a huge difference between saying Moses wrote the Constitution vs Moses was an inspiration for the ideology of the founding fathers who wrote the Constitution.
It's sad that atheists hate religion so much that they want a complete divorcing of it from anything to do with history.
Doesn't religion have it's on history? It's not like Moses has ANYTHING to do with our Constitution..
Doesn't religion have it's on history? It's not like Moses has ANYTHING to do with our Constitution..
In time to come, it will be recognized that the Lord has been SO imbedded in the many things throughout history, that humans will see how it has really been His-story!
In time to come, it will be recognized that the Lord has been SO imbedded in the many things throughout history, that humans will see how it has really been His-story!
Like He is now with the school attacks and the deaths of black people??
If so, god you ain't doing it right...
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