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right ... that's why Jesus said the Jewish religious leaders that refused to believe that he was the promised Messiah belong to Satan.
"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was
a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he
lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." ~ Jesus
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
Besides...All of a sudden this evil, G-d opposing character pops up in history?...
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
don't kid yourself ... just what are you going to do when you're forced to bow the knee before Jesus according to some?
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
Dude...Whatever...lol...
Really ??
Isaiah 45:23
By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
Romans 14:11
It is written: “ ‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘everykneewillbowbefore me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’ ”
Philippians 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Your lol is only short lived
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Those "some" are as wrong as wrong can be.
You're right .. those "some" are wrong as wrong can be.
"some" claim all bow eventually out of belief
"some" foolishly don't think it will happen at all
They already knew the Good. All it did was introduce the Evil.
They knew the good because that was all they'd ever experienced. It would therefore have been impossible for them to truly recognize their circumstances as "good." If you'd never been sick a day in your life, you would be very unlikely to give your good health a second thought. If you'd never failed multiple times at something but has always had your initial efforts meet with success, you wouldn't know the true joy of finally attaining your goal. Everything has its opposite: good and evil, virtue and vice, pleasure and pain, good health and sickness, etc. The list is endless, and we need to be exposed to both in order to be able to appreciate the good. Likewise, we need to be given options in life which will enable us to grow and progress by coming to recognize that good choices will ultimately result in happiness and bad choices in sorrow.
They didn't know 'good' because that concept of 'good' needs something to compare it to. If you asked them, 'Is this good?' they wouldn't know what you were talking about because they had no frame of reference. Good did not exist and evil did not exist until a point of reference was created which was the disobedience of God.
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But they didn't know good because they had no knowledge of good until they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good.
Being aware of goodness is not a good thing, by the way.
Why in the world not?
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... that's why Jesus said the Jewish religious leaders that refused to believe that he was the promised Messiah belong to Satan.
Exactly! 
