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35.And they built the high places of Baal, which was in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to pass their sons and their daughters to Molech, which I neither commanded them nor did it enter My mind to commit this abomination, in order to bring guilt upon Judah.
I answered this in a previous post. They are entirely separate matters which I
connected in a sentence. God does not accept animal sacrifice. It is true that
He never accepted human sacrifice when one man kills another, but the other
forms of human sacrifice which involve sacrifice of self and sacrifice of others
for any cause are also rejected by God if that cause is not specifically the cause
of His Son.
Oh, I just love how you twist things around...You cannot prove any of these things...
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Professor Bordeaux
Dr Tischendorf, were you there when God created the universe?
Professor Bordeaux, did you sit in on the counsels of the Almighty?
I happen to know they did not. So, since no human has, we must take the word of One who was.
The Lord Jesus Christ--the God Man--was there, with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
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But what about the Epic of Gilgamesh?
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What about the fables of Mithra?
To buy into these tales one must completely ignore the inspired record. Remember Noah? He, Mrs. Noah, and his 3 sons (along with their wives) headed up the gang plank of the Ark with numerous animals. When they disembarked, they repopulated the earth. Among their children was Nimrod, founder of Babel (also known as Babylon): the founding religion of rebellion against the Lord God Almighty. You can read about him in Genesis 10.
All of the Mithra's, Gilgamesh tales, Isis and Horace worship and so on began there. Babylon, still in existence and still the Mother of Harlots continues to blow out her smoke and sulfur; denying the one Lord who bought her.
It is true that the world's religions all go back to her. What is NOT true is that the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ came from that system of deviltry.
Look at the fruits (Matthew 7 again)!
Those religions holding to the false religious system are drunk with the blood of the saints of God. (Those who worship Jesus Christ in spirit and truth; who live wholly for Him.) They love war; they love to blaspheme Christ Jesus with their false piety and mystical worship.
The faith of the Lord Jesus Christ beautifully fulfills the prophecies of Jehovah God of the Old Testament. His followers are peace makers; not warmongers. Their worship is not compounded mysteries and rituals; it is easily defined by the New Testament (see Acts 2:42, for example).
The Lord Jesus is no remix of an ancient Babylonian tale. There is far more proof historically of His physical life and death than there is of many other historic persons (ie: Alexander the Great, the Ceasars, etc.). By saying this, we do not dismiss the idea they existed, but there is far more written from personal eye witnesses of those who saw Jesus. His apostles were not the only ones; though in a court of law 11 witnesses who all agree (and were not drunk, paid off or deranged) would be valid testimony. Josephus' testimony in his Antiquities of the Jews, and Roman historian Tacitus Annals give strong "proof" of His life, character and ministry.
As for true Christianity it is defined in the gospels and the book of Acts, as well as the rest of the New Testament.
Add to it, and you have Babylon. Take away from it, and you have either Judaism (which is laced with Q'ballah, which is, there you have it, Babylon) or pagan Babylon.
Tragically, the majority of modern churches are more Babylon than they are truly Christian.
But there is always a remnant--faithful followers of Jesus Christ. He has promised there would be, and He is with us even until the end.
Dr Tischendorf, were you there when God created the universe?
Professor Bordeaux, did you sit in on the counsels of the Almighty?
I happen to know they did not. So, since no human has, we must take the word of One who was. The Lord Jesus Christ--the God Man--was there, with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Ironic that you say this, because, neither were you around to hear what Jesus really said...You depend on what others have said he had said...
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To buy into these tales one must completely ignore the inspired record. Remember Noah? He, Mrs. Noah, and his 3 sons (along with their wives) headed up the gang plank of the Ark with numerous animals. When they disembarked, they repopulated the earth. Among their children was Nimrod, founder of Babel (also known as Babylon): the founding religion of rebellion against the Lord God Almighty. You can read about him in Genesis 10.
I don't think you know much...
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All of the Mithra's, Gilgamesh tales, Isis and Horace worship and so on began there. Babylon, still in existence and still the Mother of Harlots continues to blow out her smoke and sulfur; denying the one Lord who bought her.
The epic of Gilgamesh happens to be the same tale as that of Noe...Soooo...You're wrong...Here...
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It is true that the world's religions all go back to her. What is NOT true is that the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ came from that system of deviltry.
The Devil don't exist...
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Originally Posted by NT Fellowship
Look at the fruits (Matthew 7 again)!
Those religions holding to the false religious system are drunk with the blood of the saints of God. (Those who worship Jesus Christ in spirit and truth; who live wholly for Him.) They love war; they love to blaspheme Christ Jesus with their false piety and mystical worship.
When did Christ tell people to WORSHIP him?...
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The faith of the Lord Jesus Christ beautifully fulfills the prophecies of Jehovah God of the Old Testament.
What prophecies?...The ones of the Old Testament or the ones from the TaNaKh?....
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His followers are peace makers; not warmongers. Their worship is not compounded mysteries and rituals; it is easily defined by the New Testament (see Acts 2:42, for example).
Really???...No, mysteries????....What about the Trinity???....
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Originally Posted by NT Fellowship
The Lord Jesus is no remix of an ancient Babylonian tale. There is far more proof historically of His physical life and death than there is of many other historic persons (ie: Alexander the Great, the Ceasars, etc.).
Ok, rather than hear you parrot someone else...I would love to see this PROOF...
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By saying this, we do not dismiss the idea they existed, but there is far more written from personal eye witnesses of those who saw Jesus.
Really?...Where?...
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Originally Posted by NT Fellowship
His apostles were not the only ones; though in a court of law 11 witnesses who all agree (and were not drunk, paid off or deranged) would be valid testimony. Josephus' testimony in his Antiquities of the Jews, and Roman historian Tacitus Annals give strong "proof" of His life, character and ministry.
Josephus testimony has been proven to be an interpolation...I doubt that you have ever read Josephus or Tacitus, you are just parroting what others have said...
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As for true Christianity it is defined in the gospels and the book of Acts, as well as the rest of the New Testament.
Add to it, and you have Babylon. Take away from it, and you have either Judaism (which is laced with Q'ballah, which is, there you have it, Babylon) or pagan Babylon.
Tragically, the majority of modern churches are more Babylon than they are truly Christian.
But there is always a remnant--faithful followers of Jesus Christ. He has promised there would be, and He is with us even until the end.
Richard, what is your purpose in arguing with Christians? Aren't you Jewish?
My point is "stop calling it a Judaic religion, stop saying it descends from Abraham...Unless you are actually going to study the Judaic religion and the TNk, not the OT, but the TNK and stop being sheeple...
As a Christian and having Jews in my family I have observed deep rooted passion that often manifests as pride and arrogance. Many are easily offended, I'm used to it.
When I was in Israel this observation was not the same. Rabbi's took us to the Wall to pray and did not argue but offered their words, time and "passion" as a teacher would.
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