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Paul is used to discard much of Jesus teachings whether its in regards to the Sabbath , Holy Days, eating unclean foods, that your works dont matter, OSAS, Jesus second coming and more.
If a teaching of Jesus is brought up, the first response is usually, But Paul said XYZ.
Jesus was the messiah, the son of God, was raised from the dead, will return to rule as king, and was given all power to rule, not Paul. The teaching of Paul should never overrule the teachings of Jesus.
How in the world did you get so terribly confused ?
Paul was a chosen voice of salvation - he was chosen by Jesus
and nothing, not a single thing Paul ever taught contradicted the Master.
Paul taught Jews that the Pharisaical Judaism they formed was slavery
to man's laws and not of divine origin. The laws of Judaism were formed
at the end of the Babylonian exile in 587 B.C. - and changed the religion
from being Israelitic with complete emphasis on the Sinai Covenant to
a set of strict dietary and obedience behaviors which served their purpose
societally for a while, but were not part of the promise to Israel.
Paul said they were no longer relevant ! So did Jesus !
Not relevant to anyone, Jew or gentile. Not salvific to anyone.
Paul was among the greatest servants of God ever to walk the face of the earth,
and you need to straighten out your false claims here by learning the truth.
Paul is used to discard much of Jesus teachings whether its in regards to the Sabbath , Holy Days, eating unclean foods, that your works dont matter, OSAS, Jesus second coming and more.
If a teaching of Jesus is brought up, the first response is usually, But Paul said XYZ.
Jesus was the messiah, the son of God, was raised from the dead, will return to rule as king, and was given all power to rule, not Paul. The teaching of Paul should never overrule the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus, the risen Jesus made Paul the apostle of the nations, not Peter, James or John or any other apostle.
If one of the nations does not believe Paul and resists Paul then that one resists Christ.
How in the world did you get so terribly confused ?
Paul was a chosen voice of salvation - he was chosen by Jesus
and nothing, not a single thing Paul ever taught contradicted the Master.
Paul taught Jews that the Pharisaical Judaism they formed was slavery
to man's laws and not of divine origin. The laws of Judaism were formed
at the end of the Babylonian exile in 587 B.C. - and changed the religion
from being Israelitic with complete emphasis on the Sinai Covenant to
a set of strict dietary and obedience behaviors which served their purpose
societally for a while, but were not part of the promise to Israel.
Paul said they were no longer relevant ! So did Jesus !
Not relevant to anyone, Jew or gentile. Not salvific to anyone.
Paul was among the greatest servants of God ever to walk the face of the earth,
and you need to straighten out your false claims here by learning the truth.
I have nothing agaisnt Paul, but it seems that his teachings are taken out of context many times as to why there is so much disagreement in Christianity.
There is no example of Jesus ever eating unclean foods or teaching others to do so, but Paul will be quoted all the time to do the opposite.
Scriptures showing Jesus keeping the Sabbath and all the Holy Days in the bible, but Paul will be mentioned to not do it.
Jesus said he will come back at the end of the tribulation, but Paul's teaching is used for a pretrib rapture and much more.
The teaching of Paul should never overrule the teachings of Jesus and if there is a conflict, to go back and see what you read was read in the proper context.
Jesus, the risen Jesus made Paul the apostle of the nations, not Peter, James or John or any other apostle.
If one of the nations does not believe Paul and resists Paul then that one resists Christ.
Yes he was an apostle, not the Messiah or King, but of you look at most of the disagreements on the threads it usually comes down to what Jesus taught vs what Paul taught, even thought they both believed and taught the same thing.
Correct. Paul had some kind of a breakdown when hearing voices in the desert. Jesus sent His disciples to make disciples of all the nation's in the same way He made them disciples with the same words but Paul did not get the words from the disciples so could not have been a genuine believer. It is one thing to say you believe but another to believe the way Jesus meant a person to believe.
The son of man says;
"The man who loves me keeps my word."
Paul did not keep His word because he never had it.
Correct. Paul had some kind of a breakdown when hearing voices in the desert. Jesus sent His disciples to make disciples of all the nation's in the same way He made them disciples with the same words but Paul did not get the words from the disciples so could not have been a genuine believer. It is one thing to say you believe but another to believe the way Jesus meant a person to believe.
The son of man says;
"The man who loves me keeps my word."
Paul did not keep His word because he never had it.
I do think Paul did keep his words and his teachings do pretty much line up with Jesus own, but in the end, his teaching are used out of context and twisted and then it seems, that in one stroke of the pen in Colossians 2:14-16, Paul abolished the entire law of God, the dietary laws, the Sabbath, Holy Days. Then in many other letters, folks take 1 or verses and ignore the verse leading up to it and after it and come to out of context conclusions, as to why there is so much division.
Paul is used to discard much of Jesus teachings whether its in regards to the Sabbath , Holy Days, eating unclean foods, that your works dont matter, OSAS, Jesus second coming and more.
If a teaching of Jesus is brought up, the first response is usually, But Paul said XYZ.
Jesus was the messiah, the son of God, was raised from the dead, will return to rule as king, and was given all power to rule, not Paul. The teaching of Paul should never overrule the teachings of Jesus.
Following Paul is following Jesus and God.
Jesus said he had things to tell his followers that they were not ready for. The NT books by the Apostles, Paul, James, etc contain those things Jesus wanted them told when he felt they needed and were ready for it. Paul did not teach OSAS that is man twisting or taking out of Biblical context the words. The other teachings, such as the Sabbath as it applied to people are the changes that God inspired for the change from a single Nation to the World Wide spread which which included all Nations of people on an equal basis.
I do think Paul did keep his words and his teachings do pretty much line up with Jesus own, but in the end, his teaching are used out of context and twisted and then it seems, that in one stroke of the pen in Colossians 2:14-16, Paul abolished the entire law of God, the dietary laws, the Sabbath, Holy Days. Then in many other letters, folks take 1 or verses and ignore the verse leading up to it and after it and come to out of context conclusions, as to why there is so much division.
Those little "laws" were devised by rabbis during the Babylonian exile and captivity.
They were the laws of men, not the Law of God. In Christ's time, they were strictly
adhered to and had reached a level of hypocrisy which Our Lord deplored. I'm not
talking about the Ten Commandments, and neither was Paul, but the Second Temple
at the time of Christ was occupied by men who were not even Israelites or Judahites,
but implants who served Herod. Look how many times Christ lambasted the Pharisees
and the Temple actions. Christ's death caused an earthquake and ripped the veil open.
The Temple was in Him now, not in the buildings or laws of men.. and Paul preached
that message to all, both Jew and gentile - but there were those who refused to
give up their power, and they paid the price in coming years, so did Christians who
were lied about and persecuted by them.
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