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Old 07-13-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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Genesis 2:24
Matthew 19
1 Corinthians 7
Romans 7:2-3
Wrong .

Only Romans 7:2-3 HINTS at ONE man and ONE woman. It says the woman to have more than one husband, she commits adultery but is remarkably silent about the man having more than one wife.

So I repeat my question where in the bible does it specifically state that ONE man can only be married to ONE woman?
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Old 07-13-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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Because we have no reason to believe they were gay. David is extremely heterosexual in the Biblical account. He actually lusted so strongly for Bathsheba that he had her husband murdered so he could have her. He also refers to Jonathan has his brother, not his lover.

Your argument fails because Jesus never spoke against prostitution or bestiality so if absence means no condemnation then such actions are perfectly fine too!
And what about Naomi and Ruth?
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Old 07-13-2015, 07:25 AM
 
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It's amazing the mental gymnastics required for some of you to interpret your holy book to echo your own bigotry.

Yet thousands of you have.

And splintered your "faith" into thousands of disparate denominations.

Not to mention the thousands of non-denominations with their own particular prejudices in play....

And so it goes.
No it's amazing the mental gymnastics required for pro-gay Christians to twist very clear scripture. I read a passage that says it is unnatural and wrong for a man to lie with another man and somehow that is not clear enough? Or that homosexuals with not inherit the kingdom of God. I think somewhere in heaven, the authors of the Bible are banging their heads against the pearly gates saying, "cmon what else could we have said to let people no with no doubt that homosexuality is wrong?"
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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No it's amazing the mental gymnastics required for pro-gay Christians to twist very clear scripture. I read a passage that says it is unnatural and wrong for a man to lie with another man and somehow that is not clear enough? Or that homosexuals with not inherit the kingdom of God. I think somewhere in heaven, the authors of the Bible are banging their heads against the pearly gates saying, "cmon what else could we have said to let people no with no doubt that homosexuality is wrong?"
They could have said, "Don't you know that God makes arbitrary laws that have no basis in the harm done to any individual or society and then gives people desires to have fulfilling relationships so He can watch them twist in the wind."
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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No it's amazing the mental gymnastics required for pro-gay Christians to twist very clear scripture. I read a passage that says it is unnatural and wrong for a man to lie with another man and somehow that is not clear enough? Or that homosexuals with not inherit the kingdom of God. I think somewhere in heaven, the authors of the Bible are banging their heads against the pearly gates saying, "cmon what else could we have said to let people no with no doubt that homosexuality is wrong?"
What is there to twist about LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR? Seems really clear cut and so very easy to understand...
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Wrong .

Only Romans 7:2-3 HINTS at ONE man and ONE woman. It says the woman to have more than one husband, she commits adultery but is remarkably silent about the man having more than one wife.

So I repeat my question where in the bible does it specifically state that ONE man can only be married to ONE woman?
Oh... you are on the polygamy angle. There is no prohibition in that area. But like I said on page 1, the results of doing that are disastrous. The wives are at odds. Kids are messed up. Solomon was depressed.

The laws made in the OT assume one man and one wife. Thats God's designed intent as far as I am concerned. If you want to push the envelope, go for it.
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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Oh... you are on the polygamy angle. There is no prohibition in that area. But like I said on page 1, the results of doing that are disastrous. The wives are at odds. Kids are messed up. Solomon was depressed.

The laws made in the OT assume one man and one wife. Thats God's designed intent as far as I am concerned. If you want to push the envelope, go for it.

Seriously? I think the opening line of Genesis ASSUMES more than one god...
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Oh... you are on the polygamy angle. There is no prohibition in that area. But like I said on page 1, the results of doing that are disastrous. The wives are at odds. Kids are messed up. Solomon was depressed.

The laws made in the OT assume one man and one wife. Thats God's designed intent as far as I am concerned. If you want to push the envelope, go for it.
Thanks for acknowledging exactly what I thought, that there was no one man one woman rule any wheres in your Bible.

It also seems that the Bible was quite explicit with the love that Naomi and Ruth had. In fact it explicitly says it just the same kind of love that Adam had for Eve.

Sounds very squishy, warm and lesbian to me.

Seeing a whole book is about that love affair, I guess one must say that the Bible endorses lesbian affairs. I guess the bakers didn't know their Bible well.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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No it's amazing the mental gymnastics required for pro-gay Christians to twist very clear scripture. I read a passage that says it is unnatural and wrong for a man to lie with another man and somehow that is not clear enough? Or that homosexuals with not inherit the kingdom of God. I think somewhere in heaven, the authors of the Bible are banging their heads against the pearly gates saying, "cmon what else could we have said to let people no with no doubt that homosexuality is wrong?"
No mental gymnastics required at all to realize the bible was authored by primitive, often ethically-challenged men. A few hundred years later, an Emperor decided those old, dead men were actually channeling god!

It's not difficult at all to put the bible in its proper context.

Except, apparently, for those in fundamentalist sub-sects.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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No mental gymnastics required at all to realize the bible was authored by primitive, often ethically-challenged men. A few hundred years later, an Emperor decided those old, dead men were actually channeling god!

It's not difficult at all to put the bible in its proper context.

Except, apparently, for those in fundamentalist sub-sects.
The only context you propose is the context of biased atheists who have a deeply rooted resentment for the things of God. Sorry but you can use words like moldy oldly all you want, but it won't change the truth about God's Word.

The Bible was written by 40 authors over 1500 years and yet has a remarkable consistency. One of those consistencies is the heroes of the Bible are always presented in their sinful real state. No white washing. Samson, Moses, David, King Saul, Solomon all failed God miserably. Archaeology backs up the Bible, and anytime the Bible stories intersect with other cultures like Egypt, the accounts offer up lots of intricate accurate details about that culture which would be difficult for some ignorant shepherds.

If the Bible was fabricated as a work of fiction, when even include things like prophecies, lineages and genealogies which could expose them as frauds? Did Homer ever do that?
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