Why does homosexuality anger conservative Christians more than other sins? (procreation, messages)
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I think back to who I was in high school, probably more closed minded than I am now but I have learned and grew in those 50 years and talking to and reading stories like yours and others I realize just how much more growing I still have yet to do. Emphathy might be a human, and animal, trait but one still needs to continously strive to being better. Lack of empathy may also be a trait that some strive towards.
Which has not disproven anything. 67%is better than random and much less time or effort has been allocated towards this than say cancer research. Bigger studies will follow and we will also gain a better ability to understand genes themselves.
Another thought occured to me after hearing this story. It appears to me that the LGBTQ communnity has become the very thing that they are accusing us of being which is incredible hypocrisy. That is being intolerant, unaccepting and creating a separation.
Here we have a restaurant that simply wants to sell chicken. Chick-fil-A does not discriminate. They serve all customers regardless of race or sexual orientation. Yet because the pro-gay community just can't stand that the owners hold a personal belief that is not pro-gay, they refuse to let them operate that which is pretty anti-American and extremely intolerant. With the LGBTQ community, tolerance ends the moment you don't embrace same sex marriage. Oh, it's quite ok to force Christian business owners to disregard their personal beliefs, but heaven forbid if you ask the gay community to disregard their personal beliefs and let someone do business there. Total hypocrisy.
How is that the same thing? No one is asking the gay community to "disregard their personal beliefs". What would those personal beliefs be? That they are not sinful abominations? That's not a "belief". It's a fact. The idea that a certain subset of humanity is a "less than/abomination" is what is a belief, but not a fact.
At any rate, there's no such thing as "pro-gay".
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
And how can we eliminate separate but equal when gay people and the media keep separating them like the NFL recently announcing their first gay marriage with NFL players as if that was some kind of achievement. Or the first gay mayor, governor etc... IT will go on and on..
No, it will end eventually when people get used to seeing people who were marginalized and excluded in such positions and never question them. Remember the first time you saw a female letter carrier? The first time you saw a female cop? Now no one gives them a second glance, but when we were kids, you didn't see women in those jobs, and so they caught your eye. The day will come when no one thinks anything of someone's orientation and it will no longer be news, but we're not there yet so that's why these things still get media attention.
I think back to who I was in high school, probably more closed minded than I am now but I have learned and grew in those 50 years and talking to and reading stories like yours and others I realize just how much more growing I still have yet to do. Emphathy might be a human, and animal, trait but one still needs to continously strive to being better. Lack of empathy may also be a trait that some strive towards.
Same here. I was in a small town where most people were Christian to one degree or another, but by the time I was 20 I was working in New York City, and I learned quickly that the world and its inhabitants were much larger and varied than I ever dreamed possible and that it wasn't so easy to just put everyone and everything into a box and label it.
The fundies that scream the loudest that it’s a choice most likely had to make the choice and that choice was heavily influenced/brainwashed by their homophobic xian parents.
It was an achievement, just like the first woman in space, the first black player in baseball or the first Native American governor. It's not loving your neighbour if you want them back in the closet, hidden from view and to remain quiet with little or no community. Nor would you be comparing two adults of the same sex loving each other to a man forcefully raping a 5 year old girl. Nor would you be twisting every story you can to make it sound like the gays are this all powerful group attacking Christians every chance they can. There are homosexual and bisexual Christians on this forum, in the clergy of more liberal churches and in the pews of most denominations. Your love certainly doesn't extend to them, atheists and any non fundamentalist Christian.
And exactly what was achieved? I guess I'm old school because I believe in recognizing someone for their talents and abilities, not what is between their legs or their sexual desires. And if you refuse to acknowledge that someone who rapes a young girl is merely suffering under the unfair bad luck of being born with a bad sexual orientation then your viewpoint is also incredibly hypocritical. I"m only showing the flaws in your wheelhouse! I personally think anyone who harms or even desires to do such things should be locked up as they are a danger to society. I certainly don't think gay people are a danger and if they want to live a sinful life then that's their freedom to do so. I have shown where Christians have been harmed by the gay agenda. Businesses destroyed and death threats. But hey that's perfectly fine as long as it is happening to Christians, right?
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Originally Posted by badlander
One does not need to be a Christian, nor a believer of any kind, to see that your hatred and distain for homosexuals goes far beyond the idea that it is a sin.
Show me ONE I repeat ONE statement where I ever spoke of hate for gay people. I'm really sick of the disgusting lie that we hate gay people. The over 400 pages here speaks more of hatred for good Bible believing Christians.
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That's not a "belief". It's a fact. The idea that a certain subset of humanity is a "less than/abomination" is what is a belief, but not a fact.