Why does homosexuality anger conservative Christians more than other sins? (Gomorrah, Harry Potter)
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No, it isn't relevant. Justifying what some religious people do in a supposedly civilized secular first-world country by comparing them to what happens in theocratic countries that have been isolated for most of their history makes for a skewed perception.
Yah. It really is. The crap that continues to go on here is getting pretty ridiculous. There are even some here that refer to "Christian Sharia Law", as if Christianity somehow compares. There are even people suggesting Christians want homosexuals executed. It's relevant to point out an actual religion that DOES advocate for that.
Yah. It really is. The crap that continues to go on here is getting pretty ridiculous. There are even some here that refer to "Christian Sharia Law", as if Christianity somehow compares. There are even people suggesting Christians want homosexuals executed. It's relevant to point out an actual religion that DOES advocate for that.
But don't let facts get in your way.
There's even one fundie who claims some atheists want Christians killed.
Yah. It really is. The crap that continues to go on here is getting pretty ridiculous. There are even some here that refer to "Christian Sharia Law", as if Christianity somehow compares. There are even people suggesting Christians want homosexuals executed. It's relevant to point out an actual religion that DOES advocate for that.
But don't let facts get in your way.
There are Christians who want homosexuals executed, and you know it. You want facts, that one is indisputable. Some of them hold positions of power in this country, so there're enough people out there who agree and voted for them. It's not really way off-base to think that if the most extreme fundamentalists ever wrested control of our power structure, it would indeed compare to other such theocracies.
I don't for a minute think that if it came down to it, the majority of Christians would be comfortable with killing gay people, even of they are generally comfortable with causing them hurt in other ways, such as in the case of the OP's fundamentalist family. However, I don't see the fundamentalist sector of Christianity speaking up to the extremists, either. It's concerning, and while "Christian Sharia Law" sounds overdramatic, the underlying fear is not without foundation.
No, it isn't relevant. Justifying what some religious people do in a supposedly civilized secular first-world country by comparing them to what happens in theocratic countries that have been isolated for most of their history makes for a skewed perception.
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
Yah. It really is. The crap that continues to go on here is getting pretty ridiculous. There are even some here that refer to "Christian Sharia Law", as if Christianity somehow compares. There are even people suggesting Christians want homosexuals executed. It's relevant to point out an actual religion that DOES advocate for that.
But don't let facts get in your way.
Hmmm . . .you believe that God disapproves of 'homosexual behavior' (?) but don't you also believe that Leviticus 20:13 calls for the execution of homosexual people or, at least, for those who practice homosexual behavior? Does 'God' call for the execution of homosexual people or not?
Your actual stance on this subject is awfully confusing, BF. Would you be so kind as to explain, in your own words, WHAT the mainstream position IS - penalty-wise - for those who practice homosexual behavior? What I'm getting from your posts is that you're just as confused as I am about what you actually believe about 'the Bible and homosexuality'.
Last edited by RomulusXXV; 01-11-2019 at 10:39 PM..
What, precisely, IS 'homosexual behavior', BF? I've asked that question several times, along with other questions asked several times, but have received no answer. Does this 'behavior' relate to sex? If so, then how do you know what sexual practices gay people - or straight people for that matter - get up to when in private? Or, do you simply use your imagination?
Relative to that question ...is 'recreational sex' considered as 'lust' when practiced by homosexuals but not when practiced by heterosexuals? How does that work? You do know that 90% (I'm just guessing) of heterosexual sex is 'non-procreative sex', don't you? Not only that but measures are taken by the majority of heterosexual couples to actually prevent pregnancy. Are not contraceptives against 'God's' initial plan for humankind to procreate? If 'Christians' use contraceptives then is this not tantamount to their 'thumbing their noses' at God? How is it not?
God designed sex both for procreation and as a means for a man and woman to bond intimately close together in a pleasurable experience. There is nothing Biblical that says sex must be only for procreation.
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Originally Posted by RomulusXXV
One more question: if the majority of heterosexual people - including Christians - practice sex mainly for pleasure, i.e. recreational sex, then why does it matter how this sexual pleasure is obtained as long as the adults in question are mutually involved? Do you also realize that heterosexual couples practice anal and oral sex - which is usually attributed to gay couples - just as much or maybe even more than gay people? Isn't this the 'sex practice' heterosexual people do that you claim God abhors? If these questions are too difficult for you then just say so.
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Originally Posted by RomulusXXV
No, God abhors two people of the SAME sex performing sex acts. So your argument fails. Futhermore,
the facts don't lie. Sexual diseases are still being primarily spread by the gay population. Which either means heterosexuals are rarely performing dangerous sex acts like anal or gays are extremely promiscuous which we can certainly see that type of trait in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Sex with strangers is apparently quite common in the gay community.
Maybe you should take a course on sex education and biology to clearly see that a man and woman's body were both perfectly designed to safely interact with each other in a deep intimate fashion. I believe God even designed our sex organs to be placed in such a location that allows a heterosexual couple to be fully engaged in intercourse and intimately gaze into each other's eyes at the same time. You can't do that with anal sex.
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Originally Posted by RomulusXXV
Well, let's see . . .while I don't know for sure it's highly doubtful that you would agree to ordaining a gay person in your church, permit a gay person to become a deacon in your church, allow a gay lay preacher to hold a service in your church, allow a gay person to hold ANY authoritative position in your church but, as you say, you don't hate gay people.
No, of course we would not allow this just like we would not allow someone openly engaging in adultry to be a deacon or preach to the congregation. You can't serve the body of Christ is you are embracing sin. This has nothing to do with the person themselves. Only their behavior and choices.
There are also atheists that think Christians should be executed. It doesn't mean it's mainstream, or even slightly representative of all atheists, though. And you don't see us posting crap like that on message boards talking about how all atheists hate us.
Got any sources for that? Don't think a "real" christian needs proof? Are you and Donald related?
The facts show just the opposite--go to the source and read the Facebook comments of Christians as posted by Fox News:
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Keep in mind, this blog post is not about whether or not the Cross or any other religious things should be allowed at the WTC Memorial, which incidentally is mostly funded with hundreds of millions of dollars of US taxpayer money from people of all religions, including non-religious people.
What it is about however is the swift, brutal and violently extreme comments that self-professed Christians made immediately following Blair Scott’s appearance to express his views on Fox TV.
Facebook Christians Advocating Death, Rape and Harm to Athiests
Paul Altum---i say kill them all and let them see for themselves that there is God
And if you want to see what a Christian writer discovered about Christians killing people in the modern day because they are atheists, read this Christianity Post article:
There are also atheists that think Christians should be executed. It doesn't mean it's mainstream, or even slightly representative of all atheists, though. And you don't see us posting crap like that on message boards talking about how all atheists hate us.
Yah. It really is. The crap that continues to go on here is getting pretty ridiculous. There are even some here that refer to "Christian Sharia Law", as if Christianity somehow compares. There are even people suggesting Christians want homosexuals executed. It's relevant to point out an actual religion that DOES advocate for that.
The same spirit that's commited atrocities in the name of God throughout the church age has not disappeared, it is restrained because it(organized religion) does not have the power it had over the nations it did back then.
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