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Old 11-15-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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In short, within the LDS faith, titles that sound important quite often are not. Hearing a dissenting opinion from an LDS Elder, Priest, Deacon or High Priest would be pretty much irrelevant. It'd be about the same thing as your average every day Catholic disagreeing with the Pope: Pretty much zero impact on the greater religion's positions, doctrine and morality. The dissenting opinion of a bishop would be only slightly more significant. If you had 100 Stake Presidents leave the LDS faith over something, now we're talking something constituting "massive dissent within the ranks of Mormonism."
Good point. In watching the local (i.e. Salt Lake City) news last night, the observation was made that of the 1000 (or whatever the exact number was) people who submitted letters of resignation to some wannabe big-shot attorney instead of to their bishops, most were already inactive (i.e. non-practicing) members of the Church. In other words, it would be safe to say that they probably haven't considered themselves to be Mormons for a long time, and are just now saying they want to make the break official. Unfortunately, they'll still have to go through official channels. Who knows how many will actually do so.

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Old 11-15-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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A vast majority of mormans knew the Church stance on homosexuality before the latest announcement from the Morman church and they knew the church did play an active role in funding anti gay marriage campaigns. A vast majority that resigned where not active Mormans anyway.
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Old 11-15-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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A vast majority of mormans knew the Church stance on homosexuality before the latest announcement from the Morman church and they knew the church did play an active role in funding anti gay marriage campaigns. A vast majority that resigned where not active Mormans anyway.
Just for future reference, it's Mormon, not Morman.

And yes, the Church has made its stand on homosexuality very clear. This policy, however, takes things a step further, and I wouldn't expect anyone other than a fellow-Mormon to really understand its implications. Everybody has to throw in their two-cents worth, though, even if they don't know the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, or have a clue about what a Mormon bishop is or who is allowed in an LDS Church building.
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:16 PM
 
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Just for future reference, it's Mormon, not Morman.

And yes, the Church has made its stand on homosexuality very clear. This policy, however, takes things a step further, and I wouldn't expect anyone other than a fellow-Mormon to really understand its implications. Everybody has to throw in their two-cents worth, though, even if they don't know the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, or have a clue about what a Mormon bishop is or who is allowed in an LDS Church building.
I know of someone well that is a gay Mormon btw. Yet I don't expect him to leave the church as he is deeply involved in it. As long as he is celibate it is no major issue with the church he part of.

Me I can somewhat relate as I am gay but I choose to be celibate. I won't go into the details here on why I feel that way.
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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I know of someone well that is a gay Mormon btw. Yet I don't expect him to leave the church as he is deeply involved in it. As long as he is celibate it is no major issue with the church he part of.
I've got to say that I admire him for hanging in there. It can't be easy for him, and I hope that his ward members treat him the way Jesus Christ would want them to.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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Well there are over 6 million Mormons in the USA.Hundreds,even a few thousand resigning won't change the numbers much.Quite a few 'making a statement' have been inactive for a long time and were effectively ex-mormons in practice anyway.
I strongly oppose the new policy,especially as it concerns and impacts the children but the issue is really one for active members and the leadership to sort out.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:59 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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If I was a Mormon - and I'm not - I would leave too.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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I strongly oppose the new policy,especially as it concerns and impacts the children but the issue is really one for active members and the leadership to sort out.
I'm so happy to hear that I'm not alone in feeling this way, Bob. It's nice to know I'm in good company.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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If I was a Mormon - and I'm not - I would leave too.
And where would you go? Where's that perfect Church -- the one where human beings are not subject to making bad decisions from time to time?

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Old 11-15-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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*yawn*

Okay, here's the funny part... (from the article the OP quoted):

Attorney Mark Naugle said church members who want to resign brought the letters to his office on Saturday. "We had an incredible turnout," he said. "I was slammed for three hours. Some people stood in line for an hour and a half."

Since when does a person need an attorney to resign from the LDS Church? I'm not saying I agree with the new policy, because I don't, but what the hell are 1000 people turning their resignations in to an attorney for anyway? Any Mormon who wants to leave the Church knows how to go about it, and it doesn't involve some kind of legal process. You submit a letter to your bishop, not to a lawyer. These people are simply trying to make a statement, but their letters aren't going to do them one bit of good. If they really want to leave, they'll go through the proper channels, and they know this. This is obviously one way of voicing your opinion and getting the Church leadership to be aware of how you feel, I guess, but it's not going to accomplish anything except to give Attorney Mark Naugle his 15 minutes of feeling like a big shot.
Actually, I know someone who left the church and had to tell them he would take legal action in order to get them to stop trying to bring him back into the fold. They would just not stop contacting him otherwise.
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