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"Messianics" are an evangelical Christian missionary group. This evangelical Christian group is rejected by every stream of Judaism worldwide, and it is also condemned by mainstream Christian leadership for its deception and dishonesty. It is funded by evangelic Christianity. It is offensive and damaging to Judaism and to Jews.
Messianics are Jews who have had a spiritual awakening to who the Messiah is. It matters not who rejects it, nor who condemns it, it is a sovereign move of the Spirit of HaShem, and if that is damaging to Judaism and to Jews, perhaps they need to assess just why the cloud is moving and they have not moved with it. Peace
... if that is damaging to Judaism and to Jews, perhaps they need to assess just why the cloud is moving and they have not moved with it.
Messianics are evangelical Christians, who use deception and dishonesty to proselytize. If a salesman has to lie and deceive to get customers, then it does not speak well of the product they are peddling, or the snake oil hucksters that willingly stoop to fraud.
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Messianics are evangelical Christians, who use deception and dishonesty to proselytize. If a group has to lie and deceive to get customers, then it does not speak well of the product they are peddling, or the snake oil hucksters that stoop to that level of fraud.
Nonsense. You clearly don't know any. Which of them proselytized Yitzhak Kaduri?
I've met several Rabbis who met the Messiah, and have laid down their lives for Him. What you are referring to is the fact that some of the evangelical Christian churches have become Torah observant and/or celebrate the feasts. The Torah is explicit about allowing the gentiles to assimilate, so what's the problem? Peace
Messianics are evangelical Christians, who use deception and dishonesty to proselytize. If a salesman has to lie and deceive to get customers, then it does not speak well of the product they are peddling, or the snake oil hucksters that willingly stoop to fraud.
I have seen you say that before about Messianics and it just isn't true.
It is true for those evangelicals who mix the two, but certainly not true with me and I am a Messianic, not an evangelical Christian, I wouldn't even call myself a Christian although that is the label that some people would put on me.
As far as peddling, there are those sorts in most religions but I can see why you would say that being that there is so many who do amongst evangelicals.
I don't attend any Messianic place cause I can't find common ground with any of them. If you are a Pentecostal, and then you look into Jewish roots, you became an evangelical Messianic.
I was a Pentecostal who stopped being Pentecostal, no longer an evangelical.
I only know one Jew who would call himself a Messianic, but there are multitudes of Gentiles who call themselves Messianic, I think the word ,'' Messianic,'' used to only refer to a Jewish believer, but now it has become much broader.
I have seen you say that before about Messianics and it just isn't true.
It is true for those evangelicals who mix the two, but certainly not true with me and I am a Messianic, not an evangelical Christian, I wouldn't even call myself a Christian although that is the label that some people would put on me.
the difference is that you do not claim to be Jewish, and you do not claim to be a Rabbi, and you do not proselytize
you are always clear that you are a gentile, and you have respect and regard for Jewish law, for Judaism, and for Jews. you do not seek to diminish, damage, convert, destroy, insult, or change Jews or Judaism.
I have no problem with, nor do I have any interest in, Christians doing Christianity. It is when they claim to be Jewish and claim to be Rabbis that it is offensive and insulting and deliberately intentionally damaging and harmful to Judaism.
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"Messianics" are an evangelical Christian missionary group. This evangelical Christian group is rejected by every stream of Judaism worldwide, and it is also condemned by mainstream Christian leadership for its deception and dishonesty. It is funded by evangelic Christianity. It is offensive and damaging to Judaism and to Jews.
What is rejcted in the mainstream Cjristian view is the idea that the Christian Faith is and should be just a new aspect of Judaism with all the forms of that religion still in effect. I know of none that would condemn the observance of those forms, just the insistence that they are necessary. I could be wrong.
Messianics are Jews who have had a spiritual awakening to who the Messiah is. It matters not who rejects it, nor who condemns it, it is a sovereign move of the Spirit of HaShem, and if that is damaging to Judaism and to Jews, perhaps they need to assess just why the cloud is moving and they have not moved with it. Peace
Amen.
Isaiah 60:1-5King James Version (KJV)
60 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
Messianics are evangelical Christians, who use deception and dishonesty to proselytize. If a salesman has to lie and deceive to get customers, then it does not speak well of the product they are peddling, or the snake oil hucksters that willingly stoop to fraud.
Back yout assertion zbout deception with one example, please.
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