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Old 12-08-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Jesus was born on the 15th of Tishri.
What makes you say this?...
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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What makes you say this?...
Because it is a fact as far as I am concerned, it was the day appointed for his birth and not only his birth. It is an appointed day of birth just as Shemini Atzereth is an appointed day of circumcision in which Jesus was circumcised. The traditions and rituals and prophesies of this day show it to be what it is. They didn't celebrate birthdays but the birth of Jesus is still appointed just as John was appointed to be born on Passover.




The most obvious thing of all is that Jesus was born in a Sukkah on Sukkot being the Lord of Sukkot and the season of our joy and how even the angel came announcing the birth of Christ using terminology, themes and messages associated with the feast of Tabernacles, and we know that it was on one of the 3 main feasts and John had to proceed the coming of Jesus. John's father was


His whole life was set up and designed and he had to die on Passover just as he had to be born on Sukkot. Born in a Sukkah on the feast of Sukkahs.




The word Sukkot comes from Abraham building stalls for his cattle, and the word used in showing Jesus born in a manger is the same word,'' Sukkah.''


But everything about the feast teaches the birth of the Messiah even to building a Sukkah in such a way as to be able to see the star of Bethlehem when it would come and that's what brought the Jewish priests.{wise men}


But it doesn't just show the birth of Jesus, Sukkot is showing the birth of the world when the sons of God would be born.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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No he didn't.
In John 10:30, Jesus says "I and the Father are One." He says this without blasphemy. This means that God didn't sacrifice someone else. God sacrificed himself.
... and who is greater than Jesus according to John 10:29 ?______

Jesus also prayed that his followers be One as he and his Father are One at John 17:11, 21, 22, 23
Surely Jesus was Not praying we all be God, but we could be One in unity, belief, agreement, goal, purpose, objective,etc.

Was Jesus clear about who is greater at John 14:28 B ?________
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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Lots of reasons Jesus was born on Sukkot, I just found this page that looks interesting, and there is a whole lot to discuss at what was said but the prophesies are what gets me there more than anything, or should I say that looking at the 7 feast days is looking at a birth, a death, a giving of spirit, a betrothal a wedding banquet, a consummation and another birth. I guess it's hard to explain just how I believe about Passover and Sukkot because the two are the same day like John was actually a symbolic part of Jesus having been born on Passover and it's not hard to figure when John was born, and Jesus was 6 months later. All the prophesies of Jesus had to be fulfilled and John represented the head of that sacrifice because the head must be put in it's place and viewed by the authorities just like the intestines of Judas had to be displayed and he could not have succeeded in hanging himself no matter if he would have had a million people helping him because the sacrifice cannot be strangled. Both John and Judas played their roles just as other people like Barrabas played his in completing all the little demands of sacrifice.

http://heartofwisdom.com/biblicalhol...f-tabernacles/
John is tied with Elijah in Passover like Jesus is tied to Sukkot being the 14th and 15th of the 7th month and the first month.


But that gets hard to explain, and still everything done on Sukkot shows Jesus birth.




He tabernacle amongst us being born in a tabernacle on Tabernacles.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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Tishri 15th, the day of birth.


Zechariah 14


Then the LORD, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with Him! 6In that day there will be no light; the luminaries will dwindle.…





Jesus was the first born son of the earth when he was raised from the Earth and many brethren will also be born and taken from the earth just as Jesus was born, many sons are all born on the same day when the dead are awakened and they come.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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Saan,

If someone brings Christmas cookies to the office and offers you one, do you make a sour face and tell them how ungodly the cookies are? Just wonderin'
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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God never thought of sacrificing children as the pagans did - Jeremiah 32:35

Isn't ' truth and untruth ' diametrically opposed to each other ?______
At the same time in December the false Santa story is told along with the incorrect Jesus' birth story.
For some children the first god they are introduced to is Santa the god of children, or Santa the god of Christmas.
Right actions are required in order to be rewarded because Santa knows if your naughty or nice.
Santa is also venerated by allowing Santa fiction into the home.
Would Jesus masquerade in a Santa suit in order to play Babes in Toyland for children.
What does 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 say, and 1 Corinthians 10:20-21 say ?

When I was a child, I never had Santa confused with God the Father or Jesus. It was simply a tradition. Are you against children being allowed to play pretend?
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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When I was a child, I never had Santa confused with God the Father or Jesus. It was simply a tradition. Are you against children being allowed to play pretend?
God loves the kids, it's not like people are going to hell for being ignorant of what they are doing, but it is that children grow up not knowing anything about Jesus and his feast days and this is sad. It wouldn't be so bad if people even continued in Pagan feasts, it's not as big a deal as never knowing who Jesus is. Those 7 feast days that Christianity rejects, they are not for God, they are for man to know God and how to walk with God. Then you have adults that consider themselves bible scholars and yet they don't know anything about Jesus in his feast days. Revelation is a book written solely on the fall feast days and you can write Rosh Hashanah at the top of every page because it is showing Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur on every page through the duties of the priests and appointed prayers spoken on exact days and Revelation is not a book that simply can't be learned, but it is impossible to read if you know nothing of the feast days just like the New Testament that speaks about feast days on every page because the feast days are lifestyles to walk in. God has set up a system of harvests by which a person moves from one harvest to the next but a person cannot even begin if he doesn't even know there is a plan, and there is a plan.


Who cares if people celebrate Christmas and Easter, but don't let them neglect to seek out the truth and spirit of Pesach, Shavuot, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot and Shemini Atzereth.


On one hand the Christian is continually speaking of the feast days and duties of the priests while on the other hand, he doesn't even realize what that he is speaking of feast days. Christians claim to be betrothed to Christ and we claim that we are waiting on a marriage day, and a consummation between the bridegroom and the bride and this is solely of feast days. The problem is that the knowledge of the appointed visitation days of God have been taken away so that the majority do not know the times and seasons and because they don't know the times and seasons means exactly that Jesus is going to take them by surprise. He is going to break into their beings like a thief breaks into a house BECAUSE people refuse to watch for the comings and goings of their master.




People tend to look at heaven as one big box, you either get there or you don't and this thinking couldn't be anymore flawed. The design of the Temple shows the exact design of the kingdom of heaven, and there are 3 sections of the Temple as there are 3 sections of heaven and Jesus points this out in very many places. People will come into the higher kingdom to only be escorted out of that higher abundant Zoe life. The thing that will surprise them is finding themselves stuck in the outer court of gentiles and they will have no entrance into the city.


Jesus talks about the least and the greatest and what people can do in order to become the greatest but there is certainly a difference. When the temple is measured, it is the counting of people that is measured and anyone who has chosen to remain gentile will weep and gnash their teeth in the outer court when they are not counted amongst the brethren on Rosh Hashanah.


The sad part is that I think people should be more aware of what they are choosing when they aren't even aware of the differences in the kingdom of heaven and I am certain people will come up and say,'' Why didn't somebody tell me about the differences in the kingdom of heaven?''


But we have been instructed for thousands of years and there is no excuse not to watch the comings and goings of God as his days are appointed to watch.




Fire will test the works of all men and you yourself are building a work that is going to be tested by fire. If you are able to stand in the fire and your work is able to stand in the fire without burning, then you will receive a reward and this has nothing to do with salvation, this reward is to be amongst the first resurrection and the majority are tested by fire and they along with their works are burned in the fire and they become ashes under the feet of those who do not burn.


BUT AT LEAST it says,'' They themselves will be saved, but only as one who goes through a fire.''


I wished people would look into the design of the kingdom of heaven a little closer so that they will at least know that there are differences because they are gonna say,'' Why didn't somebody tell me?''
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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When I was a child, I never had Santa confused with God the Father or Jesus. It was simply a tradition. Are you against children being allowed to play pretend?
I agree with this.

Even in my very confused and spotty semi-"Catholic" (when my parents felt like it) VERY early childhood, I can never remember confusing Santa with God...and I can remember quite far back.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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Saan,

If someone brings Christmas cookies to the office and offers you one, do you make a sour face and tell them how ungodly the cookies are? Just wonderin'
Nope, I will tear them up. I will still go to my parents house on Xmas, go to Xmas plays and say merry Xmas back to anyone that says it to me, I just dont do any trees, decorations, mistletoe and all the nonsense that goes into the season. I will respect anyone who keeps the day still since it is still the one time of year people seems to act kind for once.
I am just no longer ignorant about the origins of Xmas and why I do what I do.

For this to be a supposed holy day, it starts off with black Friday and people stampeding each other to get that prime present, then a fat white man in a red suit comes into the picture, along with his reindeer, elves and people shopping til they drop for gifts they cant even afford many of the times . This is all in the name of celebrating Christs birthday, which isnt Dec 25 or DEC, NOV, or OCT.

Then someone challenged to look up why im doing all this stuff and where it even came from and why would I even put up a tree in the middle of my home, so I researched the origins of Christmas and see it was just Christianity hijacking Saturnalia and slapping Christs name on top after a few mods, so I have stopped with all the foolishness and if anyone ask me why, I will tell them the truth.
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