1 Corinthians 1:18-25 - The Gospel Is Foolishness... Or It Is Power (sinners, Christ)
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Yes, but as you can see, other scriptures support Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb.
"the message of the cross is foolish to those who are perishing (going to their damnation) but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
"For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were
redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect." 1 Peter 1:18:19
"the message of the cross is foolish to those who are perishing (going to their damnation) but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
"For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were
redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect." 1 Peter 1:18:19
Jimmie, I reiterate ... the idea that a God who is love required a blood sacrifice in order to be able to forgive stands in direct contradiction to what love IS. That is my basis for dismissing such a perverse doctrine.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
Jimmie was talking about what JESUS is reported to have said. (See post 120)
The Hebrews 9 verse still applies.
Obviously love from your perspective is different from love at God's perspective. Being that He sees both sides of physical death gives Him a better perspective that what we have.
Obviously love from your perspective is different from love at God's perspective. Being that He sees both sides of physical death gives Him a better perspective that what we have.
Did Jesus write Hebrews? Is Jesus quoted in Hebrews?
Did Jesus write Hebrews? Is Jesus quoted in Hebrews?
Exactly how did the writer get God's perspective?
God-breathed.
1 Cor. 2
14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Did Jesus write Hebrews? Is Jesus quoted in Hebrews?
Exactly how did the writer get God's perspective?
I thought you stated that you were a Christian - because if that's the case, you should understand how Jesus works inside of those who believe Him, and how the contents of the Bible came to be.
Yes, but as you can see, other scriptures support Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb.
None of them say that God needed a blood sacrifice in order to be able to forgive. The closest you can come is the Hebrews passage. But since such a notion is in direct opposition to the very nature of love - and therefore of God - then it doesn't fly. You may not agree for whatever reason, but surely you can understand how others would come to that conclusion?
None of them say that God needed a blood sacrifice in order to be able to forgive. The closest you can come is the Hebrews passage. But since such a notion is in direct opposition to the very nature of love - and therefore of God - then it doesn't fly. You may not agree for whatever reason, but surely you can understand how others would come to that conclusion?
Pleroo, I know that you know scripture points to Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb. You can deny it all you want publicly, but you know it's there.
However, you have convinced yourself that it's not loving. Like others here, your theology is out of balance. God is 100% love. God is 100% holy.
Pleroo, I know that you know scripture points to Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb. You can deny it all you want publicly, but you know it's there.
However, you have convinced yourself that it's not loving. Like others here, your theology is out of balance. God is 100% love. God is 100% holy.
And if you disagree, you will spend eternity burning in a loving and holy hellfire.
Yay.
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