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This is your faith and I respect it from that stand point.
However I don't fully understand it. So my questions below may not be valid. You can choose not to answer but intention is only an attempt to understand it better.
But before you state your OPINION (u don't have to give me a text book answer) about these questions, please briefly explain what exactly is Holy Spirit since I don't have a clear idea.
Thanks.
A Trinitarian can not give you rational answers to the concepts employed because they are NOT rational. Try this reasoning. We know God IS Holy and is the ONLY one that is Holy. We know that God IS a Spirit. See any conclusion? The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. And what is that Spirit like? God IS agape love. So the Holy Spirit of God is agape love.
Here is some out and out lying for you. It's found in the KJV.
Psalms 8 [5] For thou has made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. (KJV)
This reads rather different in the original Hebrew.
Psalms 8:
[5]what mortal that you-are-being-mindful-of·him and·son-of human that you-are-visiting·him and·you-are-making-lack·him little from·Elohim and·glory and·honor. http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineI...OTpdf/psa8.pdf
The Hebrew word for angel is malak, which sounds nothing like Elohim and means something entirely different as well. The original version in Hebrew elevated mankind almost to the level of the gods, or perhaps even God Himself. Neither of these possibilities were in keeping with church doctrine at the time the KJV was translated. So they changed the word to bring what the psalm actually said into line with what they decided that it should have said. That's a common enough practice in religion. Facts are no match for doctrine. Especially unacceptable facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malak
Elohim is a word very much like deer. It can mean a deer, or numerous deer. Pre-Babylonian exile Jews were Henotheistic. They accepted the existence of many gods, but the Levites promoted the worship of their tribal god. The name for this god is written as YEVH in the OT and has come down to Christians as Jehovah. Abraham worshiped the "God most high" of the Canaanite priest king of Salem (Jerusalem), known as El, or Elyon. This was El the bull, the creation god of Mesopotamian religious belief. A direct link between the belief in El and the belief in YEVH is difficult to establish. The answer gets lost in the swirling soup of the many Elohim and various beliefs that were in practice as time passed.
The strange idea that the Bible is consistent in its presentation of the nature of God has taken a strong and irrational hold.
Trinity is not three separate gods. Trinity is three personifications of One God.
God is Creator, Savior, and Comforter. God is Father, Spirit (Mother), and Child. But God is actually only One. -im is intentional, because like the angels which are Cherubim and Seraphim (also plural) because they are a merge of multiple aspects, so is God. We call this being God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit. But actually, this being is just God.
Would you mind telling me what you mean when you use the words "personification" and "aspect"?
Did Jesus just pray to a different "aspect" of himself? Did He ask one "personification" of himself to forgive those who'd crucified him? We know the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are "one God," but if there are three who are known as "God," they must be separate in some way; otherwise they would not be said to be three.
what is man that You should remember him, and the son of man that You should be mindful of him?
Wrong. That is actually Psalms 8:4.
Maybe in the Christian Old Testament, but not in the Hebrew Tanakh, you have to keep in mind that when the COT was translated many things were edited in and edited out, so that would change the position of verses...Here is a Hebrew bible showing it to be verse 5...
Quote:
Malak
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Malak (disambiguation).
See also: Angel (Judaism)
Mal'ak (also spelled Malak, Melek) is the Semitic word for "angel" (Arabic: ملاك, malak; Hebrew מַלְאָךְ; Ge'ez መልዐክ, mal`āk; Aramaic מלאך). The plural of malak ("angels") is ملائكه malaa`ikah in Arabic, מַלְאָכִים malakim in Hebrew, and መላዕክት mala`ikt in Ge'ez.
In Arabic, it is also used as a given name (both male and female). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malak
Well, wiki is not the best source for information...Sometime correct and sometimes wrong...In Hebrew Melek means King, while Malakh means Messenger, which has been translated as angel...A messenger is usually human, unless it says "messenger of G-d"...It is like the word Satan...A Satan can be anything or anyone...All it means is "one who blocks the way, a hinderer"...It is when one understands what the Hebrew words mean is when one begins to understand the true meaning of the writings...
Trinity is not three separate gods. Trinity is three personifications of One God.
God is Creator, Savior, and Comforter. God is Father, Spirit (Mother), and Child. But God is actually only One. -im is intentional, because like the angels which are Cherubim and Seraphim (also plural) because they are a merge of multiple aspects, so is God. We call this being God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit. But actually, this being is just God.
Would you mind telling me what you mean when you use the words "personification" and "aspect"?
Did Jesus just pray to a different "aspect" of himself? Did He ask one "personification" of himself to forgive those who'd crucified him? We know the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are "one God," but if there are three who are known as "God," they must be separate in some way; otherwise they would not be said to be three.
No, neither one are called G-d in the NT...Now, that's a lie...
I would encourage you to read the Gospel of John, Paul's letter to the Colossians, and Revelation. Jesus is clearly called God, he called himself God, and the Jews tried to stone him for it.
If you don't believe the Bible...so be it. I recognize you don't claim to be a Christian. Yet, you're here on the Christianity forum trying to tell us what our Scriptures say.
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
What is the difference between these 3?
They are 3 different Persons, and 1 God. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Scripture refers to all 3 as persons -- and it describes each having a will, each having intellect, can be offended, can influence others, etc. But all 3 are called God--but we also know that there is only 1 God. The logical conclusion is that we believe Scripture and we realize that there is only God, and 3 persons within that Godhead.
They are 3 different Persons, and 1 God. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Scripture refers to all 3 as persons -- and it describes each having a will, each having intellect, can be offended, can influence others, etc. But all 3 are called God--but we also know that there is only 1 God. The logical conclusion is that we believe Scripture and we realize that there is only God, and 3 persons within that Godhead.
And god also uses MANY different names when referring to self..is each one a different person?
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