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View Poll Results: Are the 144,000 all Jews? No Gentiles?
Yes, they are all Jews 1 20.00%
Maybe, I don't know 0 0%
No, They are everyone who is in Christ at his return, Jews and Gentiles 3 60.00%
I am not taking your poll. 1 20.00%
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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Mostpeople might need a diagram. When you speak of 6 pm. Where do you see it? As far as as a day is concerned?
The date changes at 6 P.M. with the sacrifice.


666 begins in the beginning of Ezekiel chapter 8 on the 5th day but when we see every child, every maiden, every old man, every young man dying who does not have the seal of God in their forehead{Chapter 9}, it literally means that we have just witnessed the last sacrifice and people lay dead at 6.p.m, when the 5th day turns to the 6th day in the 6th month, in the 6th year for weeping and celebrating the Messiah of Babylon,'' Tammuz.''
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:46 PM
 
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The date changes at 6 P.M. with the sacrifice.


666 begins in the beginning of Ezekiel chapter 8 on the 5th day but when we see every child, every maiden, every old man, every young man dying who does not have the seal of God in their forehead{Chapter 9}, it literally means that we have just witnessed the last sacrifice and people lay dead at 6.p.m, when the 5th day turns to the 6th day in the 6th month, in the 6th year for weeping and celebrating the Messiah of Babylon,'' Tammuz.''
::Sigh::
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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Strange as things may be. You never know when a horse with bells might ride by.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:20 PM
 
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A given is worth an oxen amount only to a certain few that are willing to yoke the Kingdom. 14 times 3 is something only one can and will accomplish within.
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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Strange as things may be. You never know when a horse with bells might ride by.

LOL...Amen....
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Representative of "a man" is the number six.
The very first 6 then can be concluded as the first man Adam.

The first man Adam became marred in the hands of the Potter, necessitating the Potter make a new vessel to replace the marred vessel.

So, the Potter, of the same lump of clay forms a new vessel. This time a perfect, spotless vessel.
That is representative of the second six.
That perfect vessel tasted the fire of the fiery furnace for the first, thus saving the soul of the first.

The resultant is a new creature, a new Adam representative of the third 6. A new man.

Regardless of what application the number 666 was incorporated in the nation of Israel, the spiritual significance is just that which I have explained.

The beast, is dead and the resultant is new life.


Blessings, AJ
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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The Messiah of Babylon has always been Tammuz, and this name could never ever change. The grandson of Noah is Tammuz, and Tammuz will and forever be the Messiah of Babylon, the very FIRST resurrected man through a miracle death and birth.


Where you find the name Tammuz, you find the 666 and there is only one place to find that name in the whole of the bible. We go and look at who the Messiah of Babylon is because we read Revelation, and we find his name in the bible.


What are the odds that in the same chapter that you find the name Tammuz, AND it is on the 666, AND people are being sealed in their foreheads AND, this goes on and on, but there is no need to give other evidence when you have found the name of the Babylonian Messiah, that Revelation devotes his book to and you find people being sealed in their heads.

That is just 3 real hard evidences putting Revelation in Ezekiel 8, 3 times.


I haven't counted every reference to Ezekiel 8 and 9, but I bet I could put Revelation there again maybe 70 more times. It is overwhelming evidence but OMG, that is not even a small portion because God tells us exactly how to receive his mark between our eyes and upon our right hand for an EXACT REASON.


Exodus 13 says that if you keep the feasts of the Lord then he will mark you in your forehead and right hand BECAUSE you keep unleavened bread, Passover, his Sabbaths, Shavuot, The Sukkot. People are given a spirit for following the ways of God in a progressive walk that begins on Passover where we look for sin in our lives, we have to die daily.

The 7 feasts teach a progressive walk with God, and that is the sad part, if you get rid of the directions, you have no instruction.




The fact that obtaining a seal of God at Rosh Hashanah against Yom Kippur in your forehead and right hand as a memorial between you and him has been going on for thousands of Years.


Jesus talked about how Jews marked themselves, The traditions and things that happen on the 7 feasts of Christ have been going on for thousands of years.


A person who comes along and doesn't know any of the ways and traditions of the Jews is not going to change ancient tradition about WHY YOU ARE MARKED.


EVER.


You are either sealed in your forehead right this minute or you are not, it is not a guess, and you would see every Jew in the world stand as a witness of this truth.


Rosh Hashanah is coming this year, and if you keep the Feasts and Sabbaths that God demanded and appointed, he is going to seal you, if you are not sealed at the appointed time, then you are not sealed with God's mark.


Maybe you do other feast days and Sabbaths that are different, but God promised a person to seal him with protection in his forehead and right hand BECAUSE of his Sabbaths and his Feasts and because the law is always in your mouth.


If this is the year, You are either sealed against Yom Kippur or not and we are not asked to do a hard thing to receive a mark in our forehead every year.

Every single year a decision is made on your head, and if this is that particular year, then you will find out where you stand on Rosh Hashanah.

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Old 04-10-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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Try me. Peace



The 144,000 are all elders, each and every one given a crown and this crown is saying a huge thing about the elders, who ARE the 144,000. If we speak of elders, then we speak of ribs, and if we speak of ribs, we speak of other things. Temple design is the design of human anatomy.


What is wrong with this picture?

12,000,12,000, 12,000.....?

Shall a man be half a man?


No.


God takes two men and he makes them one man. A man of flesh and a hidden man of God within.


The man on the outside,'' Ephraim,'' he is always the one who must die, he is of the flesh and cursed under the law, but if Judah is the hidden man of the heart, he is divided and yet saved.


12,000, 12000, 12000.....so on. That is only showing half of what the being is, and these will all become the hidden man of the heart inside other bodies.

I would add a lot to this, but I think it would be scoffed at.


These 144,000 WERE pure virgins and they are being sealed on Rosh Hashanah, the difference between the 144,000 and the other people in the world is that the 144,000 give birth to full grown men, and the world are like brides who have their children taken from them.


My opinion is that what ever that number is, when those virgins give birth to first fruits, everyone in the world will meet them, and they will all be one INSIDE YOU.


Nothing will be hidden, we will all see each other but the 144,000 will watch Passover and Sukkot happening from the eyes of others.


12,000 is half the body, and it is showing the spirit side while everyone else is walking in the flesh, everyone will have a face to face.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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That is a very sad and unfortunate way to look at things, if you were actually under a covenant, it would be called,'' Boasting against the branches.''

What is sad and unfortunate? I shared the scripture that backs the truth I posted.
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Old 04-10-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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What is sad and unfortunate? I shared the scripture that backs the truth I posted.
What is the truth?


Jeremiah says a new covenant will be brought for Ephraim and Judah to make them one. Gentiles began leaving Judah before Revelation was written and the covenant is only to Ephraim and Judah. Judah never left though, the gentiles left and Judah cannot join the gentiles in their Pagan practices and disrespect for the Torah, the gentile must return to the Jew.


You think Gentiles are now the priests?


If they are not priests teaching Judaism then it's neither here nor there anyway, but let's say a gentile wants God to consider him for his priest or maybe even a Levite?


Should he fulfill God's demands about this promise?


Isaiah 66
20And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. 21And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.


{Gentiles being called Levites BECAUSE they officiated as a priest and brought up an offering to God, what is that offering?}


These vessel spoken of are the same vessels spoken of in the parable of the ten virgins.


Would you be willing to spend your time and money to help a Jew return to Israel, would you love him enough to be a servant?


Jesus brought a new covenant and he took the stick of Ephraim and made it one with the stick of Judah, and so gentiles came under the covenant and they converted to the 7 feasts of Jesus. They left off all the worship of other Gods and followed Jesus.


Jesus is known in his 7 feasts, their traditions and rituals.


So who really knows Messiah?
The people who say they know him but they can't even name his 7 feasts, or the people who actually walk in the 7 feasts every year?


Jesus didn't come teaching a new religion, he brought a way for gentiles to become one with Jews but when the gentile has abandoned the Jew, why would the gentile still claim a covenant that was brought for Ephraim and Judah?


Which are you?


Ephraim or Judah?


The covenant has been broken and the brotherhood broken, only a Gentile can fix this.


Gentiles waiting for Jews to accept Messiah and Jews waiting for Gentiles to accept Messiah. Which is greater, in word or in deed?
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