If Our Religion Is Love And Prosperity Only Are We Christians Saved ? (doctrine, preaching)

[tonytonytony]

Nothing a Tony made up just what God inspired up-----2 Timothy 3:16.


Nothing we made up just what God inspired up------2 Peter 1:20-21.




George the lover not a Christian saved if he too wise for John 3:5.


Sandy the former drunk not saved if she too wise for Hebrews 4.


Mike the news man about Jesus not saved if he too wise for 1 Timothy 2:9-14.


Lisa the former prostitute not saved if she too wise for Proverbs 20:1.


Henry behind 50 faiths together in Jesus not saved if he too wise for Ephesians 4:5.


Debra the optimistic thinker not saved if she too wise for Romans 7:2-3.






Anybody with a ALL problem too wise for the above talk of God behind it.


Anybody against God defining all the bible just too wise for the above talk of God behind it.






The TOO WISE people with the bible belong in the bible talk in 2 Cor. 4:3.


The TOO WISE people with the bible belong in the bible talk in John 8:44 and it's not a child of God.




Anybody a Romans 2:1 theologian now just talked against in Matthew 5:17-20.


Nothing in John 8:31 says their ever ready for James 5:20.






If the goal is optimistic thinking and never John 5:39 then John 8:31 is speaking against such a person.


If the goal is courage and never Romans 12:3 then John 8:31 is speaking against such a person.


If the goal is love and never 2 Cor. 6 then John 8:31 is speaking against such a person.


If the goal is sin confession and never Romans 6:1 then John 8:31 doesn't apply to such a person.


If the goal is less legalism and never John 8:31 then Matthew 5:17-20 is voiding out the salvation for that person.


If the goal is marriage and never Romans 7:2-3 then Matthew 4:4 is voiding out news of any salvation given.


If the goal is ambition and never 1 Timothy 6 then Luke 4:4 is confirmation of salvation that's not there.


If the goal is preaching and never 1 Timothy 2:9-14 then John 8:31 is a promise of salvation that's not there.


If the goal is evangelism and never Matthew 7:6 then Matthew 5:17-20 can't lie about who not saved.


If the goal is making babies on a McDonald income and never 1 Timothy 5:8 then Matthew 4:4 is true to who not saved.


If the goal is begging the work boss for a pay raise all the time and never Luke 3:14 then Luke 4:4 is true to who think they saved only.


If the goal is romance and never 1 Peter 4:1-4 then John 8:31 can't make up who not saved.






Are We Looking For Each Other ? Amos 3:3 and Psalms 133:1 and Matthew 7:6 and 2 Cor. 6.




Never come here to be a philosopher and bully on people.


Never come here with wisdom of man to brag about.


If exposing all the bible for real unity means stepping on toes so be it.


The Jesus of the bible offended bible mockers of any kind.


It's never a matter of whether Jesus loved sinners or not.


Never a matter if we're sinners or not just a matter if we'll repent of whatever in the bible for today.


Jesus only gives the time of day to any sinner if their not a bible mocker of any kind---Matthew 7:6.


The Pharisee problem is a bible mocking problem not a sin problem we all have except Jesus.




Sin can be forgiven with true repentance.


Bible mocking of any kind can never be forgiven.


Clarification in Romans 6:1 and Matthew 5:17-20.


Confession and hypocrisy without a whole heart in God is false security in God----Matthew 7:21-24.


Ephesians 2:8 is not Christianity with liberalism just Christianity with some of the old laws expired.


NO WORKS without knowing WHAT WORKS TODAY is conflict with 2 Timothy 2:15 and 1 Timothy 6.

[John F S]

The "I'm Saved" Doctrine is nothing more than Satanic blasphemous filth.
NO ONE is "saved" until a person dies and then GOD decides whether a person is worthy of going to Heaven or not.
People who think that they are worthy of going to Heaven are committing the major sin of blasphemy because they think that THEY make the decision - thinking that they are more powerful than God.
This same filth also applies to those poor souls that think that they are worthy of deciding for themselves that they are worthy of being whisked away in that nonsense known as the "Pre-Trib Doctrine".

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by John F S

The "I'm Saved" Doctrine is nothing more than Satanic blasphemous filth.
NO ONE is "saved" until a person dies and then GOD decides whether a person is worthy of going to Heaven or not.
People who think that they are worthy of going to Heaven are committing the major sin of blasphemy because they think that THEY make the decision - thinking that they are more powerful than God.
This same filth also applies to those poor souls that think that they are worthy of deciding for themselves that they are worthy of being whisked away in that nonsense known as the "Pre-Trib Doctrine".

I don't know what you're basing your belief on, but you're not basing it on what Jesus Himself said. Jesus said that those who believe on Him, or actually in this particular verse - John 5:24, believe the Father who sent Him, have eternal life NOW.

John 5:24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has (Present Indicative Active) eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed (Perfect Indicative Active ) out of death into life.

Notice the word 'has.' It is Present tense which means just what it says. The person who believes God who sent Jesus, and therefore, believes on Jesus, has eternal life right now, in the present moment. It's in the Indicative mood. The Indicative mood is the mood of reality. In other words the speaker, in this case, Jesus, is affirming the factuality of the statement.

Notice also the phrase 'but has passed out of death into life.' 'Has passed' is in the Perfect Indicative Active. The Greek Perfect Tense has the idea of action having been completed in the past with the result of that action carrying on in full effect. From the moment of faith in Christ Jesus, those who believe on Him have passed out of death and into life. Therefore they are 'saved' in the here and now.

It is not a matter of being found 'worthy' once you die.

At the very moment a person believes on Christ Jesus, God the Father imputes the perfect righteousness of Jesus to that person. And having the righteousness of Jesus credited to him, he is pronounced justified and will indeed go to heaven when he dies.

[tonytonytony]

Originally Posted by John F S

The "I'm Saved" Doctrine is nothing more than Satanic blasphemous filth.
NO ONE is "saved" until a person dies and then GOD decides whether a person is worthy of going to Heaven or not.
People who think that they are worthy of going to Heaven are committing the major sin of blasphemy because they think that THEY make the decision - thinking that they are more powerful than God.
This same filth also applies to those poor souls that think that they are worthy of deciding for themselves that they are worthy of being whisked away in that nonsense known as the "Pre-Trib Doctrine".

You can do that and be real with Jeremiah 17:9.


You can be a cross atonement believer for salvation and still be real with Romans 6:1.


BALANCE between living out the bible enough and crediting the grace of Jesus to be
saved is called living out 2 Timothy 2:15.


NO WORKS Theology in Christianity is Ephesians 2:8 and Romans 3:21


WHILE


WORKS Theology in Christianity is 1 Timothy 6 and 2 Timothy 3:16




BALANCE With The 2 Theologies is called living out 2 Timothy 2:15.




Embarrassing liberals with the bible only------2 Cor. 4:3 and John 8:32.


A liberal meaning a bible mocker of Matthew 5:17-20.

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